RMweb Gold JohnR Posted May 17, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2023 I think its most likely to be grey as the base colour, and I'll go forward on that basis (until someone points out otherwise!) Thanks all for a fascinating discussion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 17, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, JohnR said: I think its most likely to be grey as the base colour, and I'll go forward on that basis (until someone points out otherwise!) A logical interpretation on the basis of the AI results: AI interprets wagons known to be grey as red; AI interprets this wagon as red; ergo this wagon is grey! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted May 17, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Compound2632 said: A logical interpretation on the basis of the AI results: AI interprets wagons known to be grey as red; AI interprets this wagon as red; ergo this wagon is grey! Since we're talking repetition! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 The following has been posted on the CRA Forum by Mike Williams :- 'The Society was established as early as 1873 but it is believed that it did not own any wagons until 1936, when it acquired a large number with the purchase of the Dundee business of coal merchant Robert Taylor & Sons Ltd to whom the Co-op’s coal business had been sub-contracted. According to the NBR Traders’ Register there were sixty of these wagons, all conversions from solid buffers, which had carried the Taylor fleet Nos. 152 and 251 to 310. This photograph was taken in wartime, but the colour has not been recorded as far as I know. Robert Taylor's wagons were painted brown oxide.' Not sure if it adds much to the original question. Jim 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted June 1, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2023 55 minutes ago, Caley Jim said: The following has been posted on the CRA Forum by Mike Williams :- 'The Society was established as early as 1873 but it is believed that it did not own any wagons until 1936, when it acquired a large number with the purchase of the Dundee business of coal merchant Robert Taylor & Sons Ltd to whom the Co-op’s coal business had been sub-contracted. According to the NBR Traders’ Register there were sixty of these wagons, all conversions from solid buffers, which had carried the Taylor fleet Nos. 152 and 251 to 310. This photograph was taken in wartime, but the colour has not been recorded as far as I know. Robert Taylor's wagons were painted brown oxide.' Not sure if it adds much to the original question. Jim But it is still very interesting indeed, thanks for asking the question Jim. R Taylor of Dundee have had a couple of their wagons reproduced in model form, most recently by Oxford Rail, who used a red shade of Brown Oxide.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Taylor's wagons also had a flag on the door, blue and white horizontal stripes with a white 'T' on a blue background in the top left corner. Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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