Brown and Polson Globe Glucose Tank wagon

[Paul Furner]

A recent addition to the Rail Online site has a picture of Stanier LMS class 5 2-6-0 No 42952 waiting for the road with a Leeds Copley Hill to Liverpool goods train in c1953, the leading wagon is a 6 wheel tanker for Globe Glucose and owned by Brown and Polson.  The livery is a light coloured upper and a dark coloured lower half with contrasting coloured lettering.  Can any one shed any light on this wagon, such as its actual colour, how many were there and where did they operate.

 

Thanks

 

Paul

[Artless Bodger]

A promotional Dinky model is detailed here

https://www.planetdiecast.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=125&id=69205&Itemid=2455

 

May be of interest?

 

Brown and Polson started out in Glasgow, and had a factory in Trafford Park, latterly Corn Products - CPC. 

 

[65179]

On 10/09/2023 at 20:58, Paul Furner said:

A recent addition to the Rail Online site has a picture of Stanier LMS class 5 2-6-0 No 42952 waiting for the road with a Leeds Copley Hill to Liverpool goods train in c1953, the leading wagon is a 6 wheel tanker for Globe Glucose and owned by Brown and Polson.  The livery is a light coloured upper and a dark coloured lower half with contrasting coloured lettering.  Can any one shed any light on this wagon, such as its actual colour, how many were there and where did they operate.

 

Thanks

 

Paul

 

Doesn't the 5MT have the later emblem making this later than 1953?

 

Regards,

 

Simon

[65179]

Built by Charles Roberts by the looks of things. A wagon for the same purpose, but different tank built 1937:

 

https://hmrs.org.uk/aas920-corn-products-manchester-20t-6-wheel-tank-no-37-ex-works-trafford-park-man-lettered-globe-3a-h.html

 

Corn Products bought B&P in 1935, but at some point switched the name of their Trafford Park factory to B&P, it then reverted to CPC in later years.

 

This appears to show one of the same tanks as in the photo you reference sort of ex-works in 1949:

https://hmrs.org.uk/aat735-corn-products-manchester-20t-6wheel-tank-no-41-op-1949-exwks-trafford-park-manchester-order-1.html

 

So the B&P livery is certainly later than 1949!

 

There may be more info in Keith Turton's Private Owner Wagons: A Seventh Collection which has a Corn Products section (p.158) if anyone is able to check. I don't have this volume.

 

It looks like Trafford Park (rather than B&P's Paisley site) is the obvious destination as Artless Bodger has suggested.

 

Simon

 

Edited September 13, 2023 by 65179
Corrected info

[65179]

Just to add a bit more, this Railway & Canal Historical Society document:

 

exploring the metrolink extension to the trafford centre 27 https://rchs.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Metrolink-Trafford-Centre-Revison-2.pdf

 

states:

 

"Nicholls, Nagle Ltd was a small corn milling and glucose refinery that had located to Trafford Park in 1911 
and set up their factory near the Ship Canal at the west side of the industrial estate. They were taken over by 
Corn Products in 1922. Corn Products acquired Brown & Polson (a company form in Paisley in 1842) in 
1935 and operated the Trafford Park factory as Brown & Polson. The facilities were improved and modernised in the 1950’s and a new 700ft wharf was built on the Ship Canal which allowed sea-going ships to unload their cargos of grain direct into the company’s silos. In 1987 the Feruzzi Group acquired the European operations of Corn Products and changed the trading name to Cerestar."

 

So that might indicate the loaded tanks were outgoing. 

 

Simon