Kernow MRC Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 KMRC announce an Exclusive Bachmann 00 Gauge class 158 2-Car Sprinter DMU 158 827 in Ginsters livery. The Class 158 is a member of the Sprinter series of regional trains that were constructed between 1989 and 1992 by British Rail Engineering Limited. A total of 182 Class 158 units were introduced. The majority were built as two-car units although 17 were produced as three-car units. Five Wales & Borders Class 158s received the Ginsters advertising livery - 158 819 / 821 / 825 / 827 / 841 - and operated throughout the Wales & Borders Franchise area, including Cardiff to Penzance, Manchester to Cardiff, Portsmouth to Cardiff, Barmouth to Birmingham etc. Applied in early 2003 the vinyls were removed in early 2007. The livery included images of Cornwall and also Ginsters logos (which were also added to the roof) along with large advertising posters on each side which were designed to look hand painted. The Kernow Model Rail Centre Exclusive highly detailed model in 00 Gauge is being produced for KMRC by Bachmann. Unit 158 827 is a 2-Car unit in Ginsters livery comprising of car numbers 52827 & 57827 with destination blinds for Bristol Temple Meads. The model features two powered vehicles each with a 3-pole motor and flywheel driving both axles on the inner bogies. The diecast metal, multi-stage gearbox, with gearing is arranged for prototypical running speeds and haulage capabilities. The trailing bogies run in pin point metals bearings and electrical pick up is from all wheels with conductive couplings with integral close coupling mechanism at the inner ends and working miniature BSI Couplings at the cab end. Separately applied metal detail parts include exhaust guards and interior luggage racks. bogies are constructed from multiple components featuring brake and suspension details and the underframes are fully detailed with many separately fitted components. Each model is supplied with an accessory pack comprising exhaust pipes, frame extensions and coupling tool. The units feature directional lighting, including illuminated destination panels, with Day/Night mode; selectable via the chassis-mounted switches or via a dedicated DCC function. Directional lights, each end, and interior lighting can be turned on/off independently via the chassis-mounted switches or via separate DCC functions. Two speakers are fitted, one in each vehicle, for optimum sound reproduction and fitted to every model as standard. A Zimo MX645P22 DCC Sound Decoder is fitted to SOUND FITTED versions. The SOUND FITTED models operate on DCC and Analogue control as supplied. The KMRC Exclusive class 158 is available in standard DCC Ready £299.99, equipped with a Plux22 DCC Decoder Socket (recommended Decoder item No. 36-570A) and DCC SOUND FITTED £399.99 versions. The versions available to order now, expected within 14 days, are as below: 31-517Z Bachmann Class 158 2-Car Sprinter DMU - 158 827 - Ginsters livery. DCC Ready. 31-517ZSF Bachmann Class 158 2-Car Sprinter DMU - 158 827 - Ginsters livery. DCC SOUND FITTED. Chris Trerise, Managing Director, said: “The very distinctive Ginsters livery class 158s with the Cornwall logos have been regularly requested and is therefore an obvious choice for us to include in our ever-growing range of KMRC Exclusive models.” 7 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mevaman1 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Brilliant choice. I’ve had the transfers to do this for years and never plucked up the courage to do it. I’ve had this unit for haulage from Crewe to St Austell via the Marches in the early 2000s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium James Makin Posted November 3, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2023 Probably the fastest I’ve spontaneously ordered something in, from seeing the post on Facebook, clicked on immediately and the order has through less than five mins later, wow I can’t wait! Great choice guys! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted November 3, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) Pretty sure I could get away with this on Oak Road even though it’s a few years too early 😉 Edited November 3, 2023 by Revolution Mike B 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 I didn't realise there were five like this (I thought there was only the one) so that's something new I've learned today! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackB95 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Oh nooo, I thought I was safe yesterday! This now puts me in a predicament. Do I? Don't I? It worked under ATW in this livery, and I do remember seeing these as a kid. But I don't really model this era (I'm proper ATW onwards)... I'll see how payday pans out 😉 But this is a very welcome announcement - thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 I remember a Ginsters unit running on the Cambrian when I moved to Fairbourne, sadly this is a few years too late for my layout plans but it is such a fun livery I'm sure they don't need my purchase! Personally I prefer my pasties by post direct from Cornwall! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CazRail Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 I remember these passing my house, and they're bang in the middle of my modeling era, so how can I not get one?! Goes perfectly with my Central 158 that I've re-branded to Wales & Borders aswell. Also ran a few years into the Arriva Trains Wales franchise, so won't be out of place alongside one of Revolution's forthcoming 175s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swifty11 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 A very welcome announcement and one I never thought I’d see done. Superb choice Kernow, model announcement of the year for me. Order to follow once pay day rolls round…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoey Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Is loving pasties a good enough excuse for me to get one…? 🤔 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Al51 Posted November 6, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2023 Dear Kernow, why did you have to mention that it operated on the Portsmouth to Cardiff, I've gone and accidentally bought one now! Al Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NXEA! Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 I remember seeing Ginsters liveried sets at Clapham Junction on the Waterloo-Wales service operated by Wales & Borders back in the day, they got everywhere. They would complement the impending Bachman’s SWT CEP and Hornby SWT VEP nicely. Not my modelling era but really tempting all the same. Great choice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 23:11, NXEA! said: I remember seeing Ginsters liveried sets at Clapham Junction on the Waterloo-Wales service operated by Wales & Borders back in the day, they got everywhere. They would complement the impending Bachman’s SWT CEP and Hornby SWT VEP nicely. Not my modelling era but really tempting all the same. Great choice! That made me sit up and look on flickr… (not mine) how about that…. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 On 10/11/2023 at 23:23, adb968008 said: That made me sit up and look on flickr… (not mine) how about that…. Didn't know it had popped up on the Alphaline service out of Waterloo?! Used to frequent the SWML fair bit back in the "spotting days" tempting but don't know if I can justify one appearing on a GWML branchline in Bucks NL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoey Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Now showing as ‘in stock’ 🤩 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Walker Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I've had notification that mine is on its way and should be here in about 15 minutes via APC. Looking forward to getting this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CazRail Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 The Ginsters 158 arrived safely first thing this morning, and is now in the running in process. Here it is alongside 158845 in the sidings. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModRXsouth Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 23:11, NXEA! said: I remember seeing Ginsters liveried sets at Clapham Junction on the Waterloo-Wales service operated by Wales & Borders back in the day, they got everywhere. They would complement the impending Bachman’s SWT CEP and Hornby SWT VEP nicely. Not my modelling era but really tempting all the same. Great choice! A London Waterloo direct to Wales service - can anyone help with its route? I have seen mentions of Milford Haven and Carmarthen, but via where, and were the services just a single Class 158? This has captured my curiosity, having now seen photos of the Ginsters branded units at Waterloo and Clapham Junction - hoping this livery might get to N gauge on the new Graham Farish 158……. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSkipworth Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 2 hours ago, ModRXsouth said: A London Waterloo direct to Wales service - can anyone help with its route? I have seen mentions of Milford Haven and Carmarthen, but via where, and were the services just a single Class 158? This has captured my curiosity, having now seen photos of the Ginsters branded units at Waterloo and Clapham Junction - hoping this livery might get to N gauge on the new Graham Farish 158……. Here's the map from the public timetable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainsyBoy Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 IIRC, the service was set up to give connections with Eurostar services, then operating from Waterloo. I think it was a Cardiff-Waterloo service, further west/north points needing a change at CDF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSkipworth Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, CainsyBoy said: IIRC, the service was set up to give connections with Eurostar services, then operating from Waterloo. I think it was a Cardiff-Waterloo service, further west/north points needing a change at CDF. It was a through service, Shrewsbury/Manchester reversed at Newport and Carmarthen/Milford Haven was direct. ISTR the Manchester service joined the 1Fxx from Portsmouth at Salisbury in the early years, and split at Newport. Edited November 21, 2023 by RobSkipworth 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 21, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 6+ hours on a 158 to Manchester, via Wales…. when you could go 10 mins to Euston, and be in Manchester in 3h (ish), as it were back then. Northern also had a sprinter service to Euston as well, from Rochdale for a very short period, at fares like £10. Flickr url/ not mine pioneering days ! Edited November 22, 2023 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NXEA! Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) That’s an excellent photo, haven’t seen many photos of FNW at Euston in the early privatisation days. A pair of 158’s on the Rochdale as you say, and what looks like 322484 next to it on the short-lived direct Manchester Airport service. Edited November 22, 2023 by NXEA! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModRXsouth Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 RobSkipworth - Many thanks for the timetable extract for the London Waterloo to west Wales and Manchester services - very intriguing! Do you also have the extract for the reverse services into Waterloo? I am wondering about turnaround - how long between the Class 158s arriving and departing Waterloo? Also where the unit for the 05.05 departure came from - did it stable overnight at Waterloo or Clapham Junction, but what about taking on diesel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted November 22, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 22, 2023 5 hours ago, ModRXsouth said: Also where the unit for the 05.05 departure came from - did it stable overnight at Waterloo or Clapham Junction, but what about taking on diesel? I would assume that it stabled wherever the 159's on the Exeter route stable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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