Peterborough North

[great northern]

An eight mile walk this afternoon means that I'm already thinking longingly of bed, and so your evening pictures are rather early. 60983 has made a quick turn round at KX, and is taking the 1.40 Edinburgh as far as Grantham.

 

 

Gosh, things do look different when I wipe all the dust off the monitor.

[great northern]

A last look at 60983.

 

 

And then a rarity for a Saturday, a trip working. This one is even more rare, as it started at Conington sidings, about half way between here and Huntingdon. If my memory is reliable, they were built during WW2, to divert the Luftwaffe's attention away from New England yards. I do remember passing them on journeys to and from London, and seeing wagons and vans, but never a locomotive. Perhaps this was a weekly working?

 

 

 

 

 

[stewartingram]

Conington Tip - known as Cambridgeshire's only coal mine, for the amount of coal recycled from where New England dumped its ash. (Not sure whether the 'mining' was legal or not though).

[great northern]

The 1.52 KX-Leeds, and one of Copley Hill's less well kept A1s.

 

 

 

 

[great northern]

Just four minutes pass between the departure of the Leeds and the arrival of the 2.00pm KX-Newcastle, which will also stop here, for six minutes.

 

 

From the north, a local B1 brings in a train from Grimsby. The WTT shows this as arriving at 3.19, then Q to KX at 3.25. I decreed that should happen on this occasion, but looking at the timings of the trains preceding and after it, I couldn't see how a loco change would have been likely, so this dubious looking engine has to carry on to London.

 

 

 

 

 

[great northern]

Occasionally, my generosity knows no bounds, and you get three for the price of one. Well, bits of three anyway.

 

 

Just a few minutes later it is only two. 61073 has departed, and Deltic arrives with the up Filey Holiday Camp express, just as Dominion of Canada starts to move away.

 

 

 

 

 

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[great northern]

60010 is now getting into its work, probably after a short bout of slipping.

 

 

Deltic is stationary, but with 13 on its roaring is less able to assault the ears of  passengers and staff.

 

 

 

 

 

[great northern]

Deltic is always popular, so here is one more angle.

 

 

I messed up the bacscene on this, and so couldn't be bothered to photoshop it. Please concentrate on the big blue roary thing.

 

Meanwhile, at Platform 6, Gayton Hall has arrived with the Ely-Birmingham.

 

 

 

 

 

[Clive Mortimore]

46 minutes ago, great northern said:

Deltic is always popular, so here is one more angle.

 

 

Hi Gilbert

 

On a summer Saturday with all the extra trains going to the seaside would they have ran Deltic. It wouldn't been able to show its excellent acceleration and top speed with so many slow steam engines in the way.  

[thegreenhowards]

10 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Hi Gilbert

 

On a summer Saturday with all the extra trains going to the seaside would they have ran Deltic. It wouldn't been able to show its excellent acceleration and top speed with so many slow steam engines in the way.  

Yes they would. You wouldn’t expect Gilbert to run it otherwise would you?!

 

This excellent publication gives all its workings. It was a regular on the Filey ho,I day camp train in the summer of 1959.

http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/dp1-59.htm

 

Andy 

[great northern]

14 minutes ago, thegreenhowards said:

Yes they would. You wouldn’t expect Gilbert to run it otherwise would you?!

 

This excellent publication gives all its workings. It was a regular on the Filey ho,I day camp train in the summer of 1959.

http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/dp1-59.htm

 

Andy 

But Clive has this strange attraction to diesely things you see, and so he likes to try and wind me up now and again... and again. As he is poorly sick with Covid, and feeling very rough at the moment, I will retrospectively grant a special dispensation in this case.

[great northern]

10 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Hi Gilbert

 

On a summer Saturday with all the extra trains going to the seaside would they have ran Deltic. It wouldn't been able to show its excellent acceleration and top speed with so many slow steam engines in the way.  

Well yes, because you see they gave it 13 to haul on a Saturday, when nothing was going anywhere very fast. On weekdays, it only had to haul 8 or 9, which gave it a chance to keep up with the Pacifics.😇

[great northern]

Gayton Hall has come off the Ely-Birmingham, and been replaced by this Rugby based 2.6.4T.

 

 

On the main, 60114 arrives with the 2.10pm KX-York and Hull.

 

 

[St Enodoc]

2 hours ago, great northern said:

On the main, 60114 arrives with the 2.10pm KX-York and Hull.

 

Is that a new angle? Either way, I like it.

[great northern]

31 minutes ago, St Enodoc said:

Is that a new angle? Either way, I like it.

Slightly different I think. I have taken photos from round here before, bu this time I let the loco get slightly under the bridge, and I reckon it does improve it.

[great northern]

The Stanier tank is on its way.

 

 

And soon afterwards, so is the A1. I couldn't get this one right at all, and so tried black and white in desperation, bu t I still think it is a mess.

 

 

 

 

 

[great northern]

The Up Saturday Elizabethan appears,the crew having remembered to reverse the headboard.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[great northern]

A look at the other side of 60013. This was taken on a very cloudy day, and so I decided that I would draw back all the blinds, which I never do, because of possible sun damage to buildings. Then I put the lights on as well, so I could get both sides of things. That gave me another new set of problems to juggle with, in the case of the image below with limited success.

 

 

Then the 2.18 KX-Cleethorpes arrived, with KX B1 61075, and routed into Platform 6.

 

 

 

Tim and I wondered whether anyone would mention something unusual about this loco when I showed the first pictures of it, but no-one did, so I will now tell you that there is something not just unusual but unique about this particular B1, and see what transpires. If anyone spotted it immediately, but thought it so obvious that it wasn't worth commenting on, I shall apologise. It is one for those with a particular interest in matters LNER/BR really.

[trw1089]

4 hours ago, great northern said:

Tim and I wondered whether anyone would mention something unusual about this loco when I showed the first pictures of it, but no-one did, so I will now tell you that there is something not just unusual but unique about this particular B1, and see what transpires. If anyone spotted it immediately, but thought it so obvious that it wasn't worth commenting on, I shall apologise. It is one for those with a particular interest in matters LNER/BR really.

No AWS bang plate indicates no train control fittings, a bit of a rarity at this time?

Edited August 3, 2022 by trw1089
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[30368]

9 hours ago, great northern said:

Tim and I wondered whether anyone would mention something unusual about this loco when I showed the first pictures of it, but no-one did, so I will now tell you that there is something not just unusual but unique about this particular B1, and see what transpires. If anyone spotted it immediately, but thought it so obvious that it wasn't worth commenting on, I shall apologise. It is one for those with a particular interest in matters LNER/BR really.

 

I really am no expert on LNER matters but I do note that:

 

1. This loco still has electric lighting although I suspect that many B1's had same at this time so thats not it.

2, The centre light location has two lenses !

 

That is the vote from an SR (ex LSWR) modeller.

 I have not consulted my library to check further....

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

[A Murphy]

I think 30368 has it right: the double centre light is unique to this loco?

 

Best wishes

 

Alastair

[great northern]

Close with some of the replies, but not there yet. I'll leave it a while longer to give those who haven't seen the thread yet a chance to contribute.

 

Next train is the 1130 Newcastle-KX, due through non stop at 3.52pm. An ex works Doncaster V2 is in charge. It should be becoming obvious by now why I needed so many more V2s.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 3, 2022 by great northern
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[thegreenhowards]

I have gone back to your previous images of 61075 and on the RH side I noticed a cylinder on the front of the running board and a conduit along the side under the handrail which I’m not used to seeing. Are these the generator for the electric lights and this was the only one so fitted? 

[Mallard60022]

Tender? Lubricator position? Lamp Iron on top of SBDoor?

Absolutely no idea really!

P

Edited August 3, 2022 by Mallard60022

[great northern]

42 minutes ago, thegreenhowards said:

I have gone back to your previous images of 61075 and on the RH side I noticed a cylinder on the front of the running board and a conduit along the side under the handrail which I’m not used to seeing. Are these the generator for the electric lights and this was the only one so fitted? 

Very nearly, in fact so close as to get the prize, if there  was one.

 

61075 was one of the large batch built by North British Loco in LNER days. All were in traffic by the end of 1947, and none had electric lighting. In fact the next batch from Vulcan Foundry didn't have it either, and everything I have read previously said that it was only fitted from 61190 onwards. That was the start of North British's next batch.

 

However, by the late 50s 61075 did have full lighting, as evidenced by several photographs. This is not mentioned in the books where one might expect to find it, there is no mention in RCTS 2B, nor in Yeadon. I can find no other photographic evidence or indeed written evidence of any other of these earlier engines having been fitted, so 1075 does appear to have been unique. When and why it was fitted, I do not know.