RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted February 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21 6 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: NO ! ........ the dia 1/076 drawing in Don Rowland's BR Wagons book clearly shows a stretched Conflat A on a 12' wb as you describe - but those shown on https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/conflatbafp clearly show somewhat different longer vehicles ....................... yes, I'm confuzzed ! Ah-ha - there were two designs of CONFLAT B - the later, longer ones were converted from FLAT EDs! (Mentioned in Paul's photo caption). I have modelled both. CJI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 4 hours ago, cctransuk said: Ah-ha - there were two designs of CONFLAT B - the later, longer ones were converted from FLAT EDs! (Mentioned in Paul's photo caption). I have modelled both. CJI. Curiously, Hornby did a Conflat B, loaded with a 20' Freightliner container. The upper-works were poor, but the underframe was a pretty good representation of an 8-shoe, lifting-link, type, as fitted to 21t VB minerals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Been looking for these.. finally found them.. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 4 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4 10 hours ago, LNERGE said: Been looking for these.. finally found them.. Cheers Richard, is that nigels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, russ p said: Cheers Richard, is that nigels? It was at the time. No idea where it is now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 On 21/02/2024 at 09:20, Wickham Green too said: NO ! ........ the dia 1/076 drawing in Don Rowland's BR Wagons book clearly shows a stretched Conflat A on a 12' wb as you describe - but those shown on https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/conflatbafp clearly show somewhat different longer vehicles ....................... yes, I'm confuzzed ! Quite clearly there are two lengths illustrated. They didn't change running number so the 12ft wb ex Pipes can be seen on some of the official photos. Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted March 4 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4 Just sneaks in to this shot, if it's any Help to anyone! Newcastle central of course. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Interestingly, my Newcastle contribution seems to be unmodified for its 'runner' role : - 16/6/87 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted March 4 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4 38 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: Interestingly, my Newcastle contribution seems to be unmodified for its 'runner' role : - It hasn't got a gap in the body side and only 10 hooks, not 12 so is that one of the early diagrams of BR conflat A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) DB701893 : dia.1/067, Lot 2853, Ashford 1956 ......... Don Rowland lists these as having a 3' gap ! Looking more closely, I think there IS a gap - but it might be disguised by something on the wagon floor ...... something like cable troughing lids to increase the weight of the vehicle, p'raps ? ( Tare is 5-16 : what should it be ? ) Edited March 4 by Wickham Green too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted March 5 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5 As a complete aside, I was at Newcastle uni from Sept '87 and remember 03s there (in between lectures, obviously!) so could well have seen that one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 19 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: DB701893 : dia.1/067, Lot 2853, Ashford 1956 ......... Don Rowland lists these as having a 3' gap ! Looking more closely, I think there IS a gap - but it might be disguised by something on the wagon floor ...... something like cable troughing lids to increase the weight of the vehicle, p'raps ? ( Tare is 5-16 : what should it be ? ) The Conflat As had several lengths of bullhead rail added to increase the weight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 5 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, 45125 said: The Conflat As had several lengths of bullhead rail added to increase the weight. I've done a couple of generic runners until something more accurate comes along. They would be more prototypical for a North East layout but with apologies to purists they are better than nothing 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 My O gauge version. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trestrol Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 10 hours ago, Hal Nail said: As a complete aside, I was at Newcastle uni from Sept '87 and remember 03s there (in between lectures, obviously!) so could well have seen that one. There were only six 03063, 03066, 03078, 03084, 03112 and 03371(ex departmental 92) so you probably did. It was a sad day when the Class 08's took over. Newcastle was never the same. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 19 minutes ago, Trestrol said: There were only six 03063, 03066, 03078, 03084, 03112 and 03371... Do you mean '094 - as shown above - rather than '084 ...... or were there seven !!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trestrol Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 10 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: Do you mean '094 - as shown above - rather than '084 ...... or were there seven !!?! Yes typo fat fingers small keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted March 14 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, LNERGE said: Ex-CONFLAT L. CJI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I suppose as a rather oversized '03' it can be allowed two runners, barriers or adaptors ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 15 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15 I think there are still some of those in use at Ilford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 The picture was taken at Ilford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 15 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, LNERGE said: The picture was taken at Ilford Sorry Richard, of course it is. For some reason quickly glanced at it and thought 80s Colchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 16 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16 16 hours ago, LNERGE said: They must be the last ones in use Richard. I wonder if they will fit couplers from modern units or if they will be scrapped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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