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The test train didn't always run from Donny, on several occasions the loco ran LE to Hull and pickup the excursion stock then went to Newcastle and then back to Hull then LE to Donny.

Paint tech has moved on quite a lot since the days of main works painting, plus a loco would only be in the paint shop for x days.

First style OLE warning plates were plastic as well, and there were self adhesive ones that had adhesive on the rear and some with adhesive on the front for use on cab windows.

Remember servicing BRUTEs whilst doing my apprenticeship, surprising how many variants there was. All had a plate with serial number and what Mark it was, the highest from memory was a MK8.

1L89 was supposed to be a Holbeck diagram but anything could turn up on both the morning and evening workings, any thing from a Type 1 to a Brush 4.

When new it wouldn't have had the bang plate, oval buffers or dual braked. It did have headboard clips/lamp bracket, head code panel and a steam heat bag when new

Is there not three non original features?......... No1 end lost one of the features some time ago.

XC Birmingham had a lodge job at Brighton before the depot opened there. Think Bristol had lodge job at Penzance at one time too. Catering crews used to lodge in quite a few places also. East Coast at Ncl have a a lodge job at both Inverness and Aberdeen for time too.

VXC drivers at Derby had a lodge job at Newcastle, worked 1S35 from Derby to NCl return the next day with 1V41 NCL- PLY to Derby, they also worked a Swansea NCL from Derby to Heaton with taxi back to Derby. These finished when VXC opened a depot at NCL.

The flue from the boiler was round. from memory the outlet for the flue sat in a squarish recess in the roof. There was also a mesh over the opening. Hope that helps. Al Taylor

33s get there ETH from a separate ETH generator, as does 47401-420. All the other ETH 47s get their ETH supplied from a Brush alternator (BL100-30)the same as 31 and 45. Having worked on locos fitted with ETH and seen them on load banks the 4th does effect the traction output. The effect does depend on ETH load, on full ETH load it has very noticeable degrading of the traction power, especially on a 31. Regards the Hull/Leeds Brighton service, it was booked for the 31from Leeds to New Street, with the loco of the Hull portion staying at Sheffield for a later working, this loco had worked the Paddington forward for New Street ( fresh off Saltley) through to Hull.

TP (Not TPE) units visit both during their careers , Victoria/Exchange 1960-mid 70s then Piccadilly later on till withdrawn, but with the odd visit to Victoria.

The only two of the original ETH Brush2s that were once rated at1600 HP when built, were 5656 (31409) and 5669 (31410). Al Taylor

31417 at Doncaster waiting to depart with 1D28 which is the Hull portion of 1306KGX Bradford.This will later work back with this formation to Donny and reattach to the same set coming from Bradford. Earlier in the day it would have done a similar working . Photo by Mr Bushy on Flickr.

When they were first converted they still had boilers and the steps were still in place. So the water pipes would still be there, and the gangway doors were still fitted. Al Taylor