sej Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Hi, does anyone have any recommendations/favourite paints for Midland red on a pre-grouping Spinner? Cheers Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Rathbone Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 How do you intend to apply the paint? Ian R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sej Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 Hi Ian, it's a 4mm Spinner, I'll spray it. What do you use for Midland locos? Cheers Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) Rover Damask red auto spray paint is as near as dammit! Edited March 25 by 33C Added photo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sej Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 That's very nice, thanks. What colour did you use? Cheers Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 minute ago, sej said: That's very nice, thanks. What colour did you use? Cheers Simon Edited the post as to colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sej Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 Thanks, it looks just right to me, I'll have to get down to Halfords! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Rathbone Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 25/03/2024 at 13:54, sej said: Hi Ian, it's a 4mm Spinner, I'll spray it. What do you use for Midland locos? Cheers Simon I use a cellulose paint matched to Precision Paints LMS Crimson Lake, which is probably the best colour on the market and it’s available in gloss. You say ‘I’ll spray it’ , do you mean a rattle can or air brush? Rover Damask Red is probably discontinued now and it’s also a little pink. LMS, MR & BR Crimson Lake/ Maroon are all the same colour. Ian R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted March 26 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26 5 minutes ago, Ian Rathbone said: I use a cellulose paint matched to Precision Paints LMS Crimson Lake, which is probably the best colour on the market and it’s available in gloss. You say ‘I’ll spray it’ , do you mean a rattle can or air brush? Rover Damask Red is probably discontinued now and it’s also a little pink. LMS, MR & BR Crimson Lake/ Maroon are all the same colour. Ian R I have today purchased a couple of rattle-cans of Ford Burgundy Red from Halfords, which is my standard representation of BR Coach Crimson / Maroon. This time, it is for a couple of Southern Pride kits of the ANGLO SCOTTISH CAR CARRIERs. To my eyes, it is a spot-on reproduction of what I saw at 1:1 on the 'big railway'. CJI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted March 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27 9 hours ago, cctransuk said: BR Coach Crimson / Maroon. Surely two completely different things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted March 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Hal Nail said: Surely two completely different things! As I understand it, Midland / LMS / BR 'maroon' is Crimson Lake; BR 'blood' is Carmine. CJI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnforth Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) If a rattle can and you have Motor Factors near you that will mix paint, I used RAL 3005 after researching. (As in picking the brains of others )! HTH Edited March 27 by Carnforth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 12 hours ago, Ian Rathbone said: LMS, MR & BR Crimson Lake/ Maroon are all the same colour. 2 hours ago, Hal Nail said: Surely two completely different things! Apart from using different components to the mixture due to changes in the chemical compositions over the years, what Ian says is correct. The finished colour remained the same. Don't get confused with the red of 'Blood and Custard' which I believe is officially described as 'Carmine' and actually is a different colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sej Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 Thanks everyone. Very interesting! I would love to get hold of some cellulose paint, I use an airbrush in a very well ventilated shed! Where do you source yours Ian? Cheers Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted March 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27 4 hours ago, sej said: Thanks everyone. Very interesting! I would love to get hold of some cellulose paint, I use an airbrush in a very well ventilated shed! Where do you source yours Ian? Cheers Simon Cellulose paint, contrary to popular belief, IS still available. Any good car factor should be able to supply it, either in tins or as aerosols. You may have to provide some evidence that you require the paint for professional use - a home printed business card for, say, 'Joe Bloggs, Model Railway Locomotive Painter' should suffice. CJI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted March 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27 (edited) 10 hours ago, Poor Old Bruce said: Don't get confused with the red of 'Blood and Custard' which I believe is officially described as 'Carmine' and actually is a different colour. I have read in several places that the official name of the early red colour was BR Crimson. Carmine was coined later (can't recall if it was an author or a modeller). Anecdotal but Precision call theirs BR Coach Crimson (blood), and Railmatch call theirs crimson. found the quote - "I believe the use of the word "carmine" is down to J N Maskelyne, sometime editor or the Model Railway News" Irrelevant to this thread obviously Edited March 27 by Hal Nail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicktoix Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 25/03/2024 at 14:41, 33C said: Rover Damask red auto spray paint is as near as dammit! To your eyes it is correct and that is fine . But I doubt there is anyone alive today who has seen Midland loco straight out of the works and could define its colour. Colour perception and memory is poor. Light conditions, weathering and fading of colour make a huge difference. I had a friend, a professional mountain artist, who couldn't always finish paintings on the hill. She made colour swatches before she started so that she had references to work from. Sadly she is no longer with us but I do own two of her paintings. Nick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Precisely. Colour fades over time. So if the shade is bright, ex. works. If dulled, service sheen. If black, needs a clean! Pick a time in the life of the loco and your colour will match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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