64F Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Does anyone have information about the dates / operations of the prototypes for Bachmann's TTF tankers in BP Lubricants livery (37-590 and 590A)? I've not been able to find any photos, but the combination of TOPS numbers and vacuum brakes presumably means late-'70s to early-'80s. Presumably these would have operated from a specific plant and been less widespread than the more common grey or black oil tankers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Need running numbers, Bing fails to find that Bachmann number Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Not seen one as Lubricants but the earliest Green BPO I recorded was March 1991. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nightstar.train Posted March 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21 Here they are https://railsofsheffield.com/products/Bachmann-37-590-br-45t-ttf-tank-wagon-bp-lubricants-green https://railsofsheffield.com/products/Bachmann-37-590a-br-45t-ttf-tank-wagon-bp-lubricants-green-w Seem to be numbers BPO60365 and BPO60194. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
64F Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 4 hours ago, hmrspaul said: Not seen one as Lubricants but the earliest Green BPO I recorded was March 1991. Paul Yes, but the Bachmann ones are supposedly vac braked and have an older type BP logo, and now that I look again they also lack hazchem markings which suggests late '70s. Hence my interest - I don't think I've ever seen pictures of green tankers in that time period. The first place I checked was your excellent website of course. Assuming that the models are prototypical I'm thinking they were either not very numerous or had a restricted area of operations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, 64F said: Yes, but the Bachmann ones are supposedly vac braked I've never seen a Bachmann 4wh tank. I have no idea what it is. However, I am aware that, like other companies, they are trying to represent the Monobloc 45t tanks as all being very similar when each manufacturer had their own styles, that changed with time and also whether built VB and later rebuilt AB, or AB from new... and then there is the suspension changes and the barrel, ladders, fillers, vents and access walkways all differ. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 In 1990 there were three BPO 60194 Chas Roberts 1964 TT034C converted to TTA BPO 60197 Pickering 1965 TT026Y converted to TTA BPO 60365 South Staffs 1965 TT026J still TTF but stored 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
64F Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 20 minutes ago, markw said: In 1990 there were three BPO 60194 Chas Roberts 1964 TT034C converted to TTA BPO 60197 Pickering 1965 TT026Y converted to TTA BPO 60365 South Staffs 1965 TT026J still TTF but stored Interesting. Sounds like there may just have been a handful for wagonload traffic. It would still be nice to know where they ran, and to find a picture to see how close the Bachmann representation is / judge what could be done to improve it. 60197 is preserved, but it will doubtless have been altered a bit since its days as a TTF: https://nationalwagonpresg.wixsite.com/home/about-1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE 8SVT Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) Edited March 22 by EE 8SVT More info 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE 8SVT Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Here is the info RE:- these tanks 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
64F Posted March 22 Author Share Posted March 22 Super, I can't resist a Grangemouth wagon. The roof walkway being of the wrong type is the most obvious issue, but these always benefit from replacement anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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