RMweb Premium Kris Posted October 11, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2010 Well, yes, if the alternative is to have 40+ rapido couplings on view that might well be the case! What ever you do don't do what I did and leave yourself with a nice rake of wagons and vans but have nothing to pull them with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernist Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 The bridge has undergone another transformation in the last few years. I do have shots taken from the railway so I will have a look to see if the whole of the bridge has changed or just the road deck Oddly enough some pictures just came up on my google search that I haven't seen previously. A couple show the bridge as it was in 1963! Very convenient Some great images http://www.railbrit.co.uk/location.php?loc=Kyle%20of%20Lochalsh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portchullin Tatty Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 The main road formerly went from Balmacara to Erbusaig and then parallel with the railway into Kyle. Thus the bridge in the background of this view was the main road. In the mid 1970's (I think) the road along the coast was formed and the main road thus run across this bridge. This necessitated its rebuilding as this is not a particularly substantial structure (note the one in the background already has been rebuilt in this view - it was formerly also lattice). When the Skye Bridge was built, the bridge was again rebuilt and widened. Nice view you have found - thanks for that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernist Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 The main road formerly went from Balmacara to Erbusaig and then parallel with the railway into Kyle. Thus the bridge in the background of this view was the main road. In the mid 1970's (I think) the road along the coast was formed and the main road thus run across this bridge. This necessitated its rebuilding as this is not a particularly substantial structure (note the one in the background already has been rebuilt in this view - it was formerly also lattice). When the Skye Bridge was built, the bridge was again rebuilt and widened. Nice view you have found - thanks for that! And thanks for that bit of information! Looking at that photo I thought the bridge seemed narrower than the current one, but doubted it would be if it was a main road. The fact it actually became a different road in the '70s, and the subsequent link to Skye, explains that. On another note, I see another scratch building project looming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiltedsignaller Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 And thanks for that bit of information! Looking at that photo I thought the bridge seemed narrower than the current one, but doubted it would be if it was a main road. The fact it actually became a different road in the '70s, and the subsequent link to Skye, explains that. On another note, I see another scratch building project looming. Of course, one has to bear in mind that all, including main, roads were single track around that area in those days. The superb photograph really reawakens my boyhood memories of Kyle. The milk van behind the loco would be detached when the train reached Dingwall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernist Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 A photograph of the layout with the ramp from the road (not yet built) down to the station in the process of being built. I built it with cardboard supports, balsa place on top for the road and sheets of slaters stone glued onto balsa for the walls. I topped it with 2mm square plastic rods (on one wall in the pic) but decided it was too thick so cut strips from a plastic sheet instead. The bridge will run from immediately behind the ramp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixteen 12by 10s Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Hi A few photos that may be of some help, i have loads more i will get to you shortly. The first one, is taken from the end of the platform, i had not noticed the underpass before, but this must have been the access to the steamers gang plank. Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted October 15, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 15, 2010 Good to see that this is coming on well. Interesting detail photo that exit to the jetty, never noticed that when I have been there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernist Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 Yes, interesting pics Gary, thanks! Good bit of detective work there! I'm currently looking at scratch building the old lattice bridge using plastics rods. Anyone done something similar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted October 17, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 17, 2010 I haven't constructed anything that complex but I would suggest that if you are comfortable with a soldering iron then building this out of brass would provide better results, that would be more robust when it came to cleaning. However you end up building it jigs will be your friend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiltedsignaller Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 I remember the jetty underpass, provided for when the Loch Seaforth called at low tide. It's a year or two since I've been to Kyle myself and am surprised by the new building on the left in the third photo. It must really hem the station in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernist Posted October 18, 2010 Author Share Posted October 18, 2010 You're no doubt right Kris, brass would be a lot more robust. I'm not used to working with brass but it could be good practise. I need to get better with the soldering iron, certainly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted October 18, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 18, 2010 Given the amount of joint's on the bridge you'd get the practice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Alistair Wright(5522 models) at one stage did an etch of a lattice bridge panel, in 4mm at least. I soldered up one as a trial for my layout, but when I realised that I would need to do approx. 22 of these I retreated to plan B., and used Wills panels instead. Its now a maybe someday job. Lochgorm Models has this range of kits, and AFAIK it is not in production just now, but it may be worth contacting Andy Copp to find out if it might be made available sometime. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixteen 12by 10s Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Hi I had a good guess at the underpass thingy, so I’m glad I was right!!. The new large building on the left is the new Kyle health center, its amazing how much Kyle has changed since the passing of the ferry"s. Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portchullin Tatty Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Alistair Wright(5522 models) at one stage did an etch of a lattice bridge panel, in 4mm at least. ......................................................but it may be worth contacting Andy Copp to find out if it might be made available sometime. The artwork has been lost. However, Andy is contemplating redoing the artwork (and do it a little bit better than the original that made a couple of compromises). If people did want an etch for the latticework (bearing in mind it need not just be for Kyle or the Highland) then it might provoke him to take the plunge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernist Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 Thanks everyone for the info on the Alaistar Wright lattice bridge. I've also been given the name, which I wrote down but don't have on me right now, of someone else who might have lattice bridge frets I could use. Will update. Trying to create it myself, when I'm already scratchbuilding the station building and other areas, might be biting off more than I can chew! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernist Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 I finally started laying track today. I'm using the PVA and double sided sticky tape technique as can be seen in the following pictures: Pieces of double sided tape at regular intervals to hold the track in place with dabs of PVA in between. Hopefully that will hold it firm. I'll see how it cures. I wanted to avoided track pins! cheers Darren Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold bcnPete Posted October 21, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2010 Double sided tape or PVA worked for me...never used them both together as the ballast does a pretty good job of setting it in place! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted October 21, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2010 Interesting combo of PVA and tape. Never seen it done like that before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernist Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 I tried just PVA initially but i wasn't happy the track was lying flat enough to the surface, and as the rail is next to the platform edge I couldn't put weights on it to keep it flat. I'd seen someone do this on youtube. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McRuss Posted October 21, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2010 Hello, for the tracks on my modules I used Pattex contact glue for gluing the track on the baseboard. I don't know if these glue is available in Britain. Markus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted October 21, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2010 If you can't get weights directly onto the track, I find a bit of wood very helpful. I use this to balance weights on to clear obstacles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernist Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 Bad day at Kyle. After getting some track down, which I wasn't totally happy with at the joins between points and flexitrack, I decided to get some leccy to the thing. This meant soldering, which ended up with a lot of melted sleepers, two foot scale solder joints and a pretty grumpy me. Anyway, I connected the droppers to the bus by wrapping the wire around for now, having done enough soldering for one day. I wanted to test my two locos, which haven't been run yet - oh yes, sorry for not having a dc layout to run it on first, farish, new to this you know, (told you I was grumpy) The good news is that the class 24 runs smoothly, even at snail slow pace. The bad news, apart from that already conveyed, is that the black 5 stutters at every track join, soldering join and any other place it fancies. Just better at pointing out the deficiencies in the track or faulty? Think my future modelling might lay in dioramas! Cheers Darren, from a gloomy Kyle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted October 23, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2010 the black 5 stutters at every track join, soldering join and any other place it fancies. Just better at pointing out the deficiencies in the track or faulty? Do your two loco's have different manufactures chips in? I ask as I have this problem with one of my loco's yet others work fine - It almost appears to me that the signal is to strong at these points. The other possibility is dirty wheels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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