LNERGE Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Faced with snow covering everything outside i usually play with and me becoming a terrible wimp i've turned to scratchbuilding some wagons.. This one is a first go to help me work out the true shapes of some of the platework and nudge the old grey matter towards oo scale and away from 12 inch to the foot. I got carried away and built it onto a spare Parkside Dundas chassis. The ribs are too big but once the whole thing was together i thought it didn't too bad and i'll let it form the start of a small batch. Is anyone aware of any suitable transfers for this vehicle? I'm especially keen to find one transfer for the MAXIMUM SPEED 35 MPH legend.. I'd like to acknowledge and thank Paul Barlett and his magnificent site and the Barrowmore MRG for the drawing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 I admire your courage in re-starting scratchbuilding with something as complicated as a hopper- even kit-built ones can be difficult to get square. The ribs may well be too big, but they convey the character of the wagon- they always struck me as much chunkier than the 21t hoppers, when I used to see them on the sand trains from Oakamoor at Cockshute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 My memories of them are on Middleton Towers - Stairfoot workings interspersed with various other wagons including tipplers. They always looked rather robust. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Looking good - bit of a Holy Grail for me this wagon type - trying to do the same with the coke hoppers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 The next hopper takes shape.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 The next hopper takes shape.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share Posted December 10, 2010 I'm now building a diagram 1/167 hopper.. The vacuum cylinders, W irons and axleboxes are from an Airfix kit bought at a swapmeet for 25p.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 I've built a 13 ton hopper though it wont run in the train i'm trying to recreate. A COVHOP is next.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Nice to see another scratchbuilder and that's some good work on difficult prototypes. Not a criticism, but a question: I see there isn't much/any river or bolt detail on those wagons. That may be prototypical (I'm not familiar with them) but rivets were something which put me off scratchbuilding for a long time. I wondered whether you'd seen these. I wouldn't be without them now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 I've tried to stick to modelling welded prototypes but yes there should be some rivet detail or something to represent Huck fastenings where used.. I will experiment in due course. There are numerous inaccuracies on all the wagons built so far but i hope they capture the basic shape of their prototypes. The main issue is they have to run well enough to be propelled over the trailing connections on my layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 The next five are under way... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Nice Covhop, I did start scratchbuilding some a few years ago and got most of the parts cut and ready but only got as far as completing the first one. Just one thing that I did notice is that the weld strapping on the top of the wagon - the second and fifth straps stop at the top of the roof slope and then you have the opening filling hatches, which hinges open. The other straps (1st, 3rd, 4th and 6th) all appear to go right across the top of the wagon from the photos that I have got of the two remaining wagons. I knew I should have took some more detailed ones when I had the chance and a pair of ladders a few years ago doh! Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 I did make a little more progress with the COVHOP over Christmas but i'm now awaiting parts to progress the underframe details.. It will most probably be painted as a sugar carrier in due course as i've seen a few pictures and a video of them singularly in freights in East Anglia. I need to find a good colour picture so i can match the paint. It seems to be a very light blue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I did make a little more progress with the COVHOP over Christmas but i'm now awaiting parts to progress the underframe details.. It will most probably be painted as a sugar carrier in due course as i've seen a few pictures and a video of them singularly in freights in East Anglia. I need to find a good colour picture so i can match the paint. It seems to be a very light blue. There are three photos of sugar covhops in this collection http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/c28362.html Unfortunately you have not modelled a sugar covhop, just a standard one . The fillers were different and they had their own diagram 1/249. As you suggest they were a light blue - lighter than the blue used on BSC lorries - the photographs show this comparison. Bulk Urea was worked to Great Chesterford in Cambridgeshire. Sorry this topic has gone OT. Paul Bartlett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 I've modified the title slightly to reflect what i'm trying to do. The two COVHOPs required for this train will be built later on once i've built the bulk of the other wagons. The MSO/V's will be modified Airfix kits and the 31 is a standard Hornby product.. I'll keep plodding away building 1/163 and 1/167 hoppers for now. I'm sure this train would have arrived at Lynn in the reverse order to the list and thus would have had an fairly chunky fitted head. With the train arranged to the list it must have been getting near to what a 31 could handle though some of the other lists i have show swinging loads up 950 tonnes. In model form this train is of quite significant length and probably beyond the length limit of my loops so it may get trimmed a little. The COVHOP built so far was a practise piece to see if i could make the roof etc. It will receive modified hatches in due course and wont run in the same train as i hope my next efforts will be better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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