halfwit Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 All good stuff Keith. Please keep it coming! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 Here are a couple of photos of the shunters at Shotton Steelworks, Dee Marsh Junction. More vagueness, I'm afraid. BR took over the internal shunting from the BSC locos in 1992 These first photos were taken in early 1992 from Dee Marsh Junction box and show the BSC locos on shed with a 08 and another 08 bringing a train from the works. Later 37 711 passing the box heading southwards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 More photos and more vagueness. I think these pics were taken in May 1992 but I'm not really sure. Whenever they were taken it was a really dull day. Some shunters had been left behind the box and were being moved; I think they had been put there prior to being sold. Their identities had been removed. This loco still had its plates and was numbered 12. I have some more pics taken on this occasion but my old and crotchety scanner (a bit like me ) decided to stop working tonight. I'll put some more up when it's being more helpful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Carrying on from where I left off........... No. 12 outside the shed with unidentified loco ( not one of the others shown in the last post) Also outside the shed was 08 951 Looking across to the shed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 While I was training at Dee Marsh Junction box, I was able, on the 23rd March 1990 to have a wander around the area controlled by the box. I took the following pics of the BSC internal user wagons that were near the BR sidings. Now a couple of BR wagons and locos This wagon seemed to be duty as a buffer stop! BR 08 884, the yard shunter 47 600 Dewi Sant / Saint David 37 711 "Tremorfa Steelworks" waiting to enter the sidings with a coil train from South Wales Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 In late 1992 the Shell sidings at Stanlow underwent some maintenance and this small tamper was used there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 More Dee Marsh vagueness... BR class 08 shunting into the works. These were taken from the box so I didn't get the loco number and were taken, I think, in 1992 taking coil into the works returning with empty wagons On the same date (but in better weather than previous posts) No12 and another shunter OOU behind the box Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I Have a feeling that the Hoppers ended up at Workington! Nice shots! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethevans1986 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Any more photos? GE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan-Leeds Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Now i have more than a passing interest in the Manchester ship canal could someone please provide me with the correct diagrams for the Brake vans shown here Im considering a new 7mm project . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Now i have more than a passing interest in the Manchester ship canal could someone please provide me with the correct diagrams for the Brake vans shown here Im considering a new 7mm project . They look as though they could be ex-LMS (to a Midland design)- Diagram D1657 or D1659. The former is available in 0 from Parkside Dundas; the main difference seems to be that the D1657 has duckets, whilst the D1659 doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegreenly Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Any idea where those grain hoppers were going to/from, and what they might have been carrying? Forgive me, but I know of no grain imports to Port Sunlight in the 70's or 80's. I think the hopper wagons may have been carrying Sodium Tripolyphosphate from Albright and Wilson in Whitehaven. Used in large quantities in Washing Powders. They later used powder wagons painted purple and branded Levers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefreight Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 BOCM Silcock had a siding at Port Sunlight within the Lever Bros site. Not sure when the traffic ceased this pool might be of interest. Pool 0559 STS/CITA Shieldhall to various. Soya Meal from King George V Dock 88 0998 045/70/73 and 88 9380 041/67. All slab sided Polybulks diagram E. 442 Locations - 10 December 1982: Clyde Port Authority, King George V Dock, Shieldhall - loading point Animal Feedstuff BOCM Silcock, Port Sunlight - loaded destination Animal Feedstuff This flow ceased the following year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlandbill Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 BOCM Silcock had a siding at Port Sunlight within the Lever Bros site. Not sure when the traffic ceased this pool might be of interest. Pool 0559 STS/CITA Shieldhall to various. Soya Meal from King George V Dock 88 0998 045/70/73 and 88 9380 041/67. All slab sided Polybulks diagram E. 442 Locations - 10 December 1982: Clyde Port Authority, King George V Dock, Shieldhall - loading point Animal Feedstuff BOCM Silcock, Port Sunlight - loaded destination Animal Feedstuff This flow ceased the following year. Enjoyed your article on 'grain trains' in Rail Express this month any chance you could list the loading points in the late 60's and early 80's? Cheers Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefreight Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I could do the early 80's but not the late 60's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlandbill Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I could do the early 80's but not the late 60's. Loading points for Distillers traffic from eastern England in the early 80's would be great. Many Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debs. Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Thanks for your kind comments James and Dave. Here's a couple more at Ellesmere Port taken August 1990. As I mentioned earlier the MSC locos didn't come too near to the box very often. here's one occasion when it did The loco on the freightliner in the loop will unhook and going into the holding sidings (roads 4 & 5 in the yard). the 08 waits for the MSC to finish its shunt. The 08 gets in on the act with it's shunt. Seeing Keith`s smashing pictures of the yard at E.Port reminds me of the first time I became aware of the real dangers of not keeping good-hold of an unfitted/loose-coupled freight trip: coming from Hooton, we were turned in at No.4 and my driver letting it roll into the yard (perhaps a little 'hot') passing the shunter`s cabin......with the guard (prematurely) hopping-off there to make a brew, as his van passed.......my driver then applied the air-brake on the loco (a single class-25) which immediately picked up her skirts and began to flee towards the yard-neck at No.5.....without any help from the van-end we picked up speed, heading down-hill towards the head shunt with me on the horn, toot-toot-tooting like mad to let the bobby know we were running away; my driver was on and off the brakes (like a Jewish wedding), trying to get some retardation (but to-little effect) so we slid by the shunting-signals and the No.5 box at a great rate of knots (mercifully the quick-thinking bobby had the road set-safe) with us now heading towards the buffers......the rusty (little frequented) rails in the far portion of the head shunt gave a bit of grip and we ground breathlessly to a halt a couple of feet from the somewhat old and rickety rail-built stops.....Phew! ......mercifully; no harm done and no 'paperwork' thanks to a kind bobby. There endeth the first (of many) lessons! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 Just scanned these photos, taken 23/11/1986, at Ellesmere Port. Not the highest quality (even by my low standards!) but I hope they're of interest. The first two are of the MSC loco compound near Eastham Locks. The first one also shows the track bed (on the right) being prepared fo a line into Manisty Wharf. the nearer loco (partly obscured by the light damage is MSC 3003. Behind the 2nd loco,whose number I couldn't see, was an ex-GW brake van, as adapted by the MSC. In the light damage above 3003 and behind a lamp post can just be seen a brake van similar to the one shown below. The 2nd photo shows the compound from a slightly differnet angle, the bushes by the locos stopping any chance of getting closer views. The other MSC loco compound by Oil Sites Road with 3005 in it. Standing nearby is a brake van (No 6372, I think). Not on the Wirral but nearby, a view taken at the level crossing at the start of the Weston Point Light Railway looking north towards Runcorn station and taken the same day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Doesn't the Bluebell carriage dept have an ex MSC Sentinel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Ribble Railfreight have ex MSC DH23 (now named 'Energy') whilst the WSR have DH16. The EastLancs also have one of the earlier Hudswells 4002. The MSC purchased 18 of the 4wh Sentinels and 5 of the 0-6-0's. Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Doesn't the Bluebell carriage dept have an ex MSC Sentinel? Yep, though it went through the hands of Thomas Hill (who gave it a new cab) and the NCB and - for a time - Siemens at Northam depot in Southampton where I saw it, over the fence: http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/locos/d/sentinel.html Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
banburysaint Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Thanks for posting the photos and information. I grew up on the Wirral but being born in 1978 meant that I missed alot of interesting traffic as by the time I became aware it had disappeared. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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