Saunderino Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Hey everyone, I am thinking about asking a friend to scratch build a model of LHJC No 5 in 4mm scale & was wondering if anyone knew where I could accuire a copy of the original plans for the locomotive? Thanks Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 This is the one built by Robert Stephenson isn't it? I would - having consulted the National Register of Archives - strongly suspect that they can be found (assuming they've survived of course), that they are in the care of the NRM: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/subjectView.asp?ID=B6626 Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 An alternative would be to gain permission to measure the original loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon hudson Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Try the N Y M R or N E L P G I was A young lad of 15 when No 5 moved from philli in 1970 and I remember the late W.B Greenfuield collecting drawings for No 5 from the Darlington works of the Stephenson Co I was actually with him.As an aside I footplated No5 on her last test run before leaving Philli and also her last journey to the exchange sidings at Penshaw.I actually helped prepare her that morning I.S Carr took some cracking pictures.Happy days.I'm in the process of modelling part of the Philli complex Running shed and coaling stage in fact the last baseboard was finished yesterday so track laying will commence soon-Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Simon, we will need more information in a layout thread! It sounds like a very intersting project! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon hudson Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I don't want to hijack this thread but as track laying commences I will attempt a new thread-simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Have been racking my brains over this one, and I think there was a kit by Chilton Ironworks a long time ago which was intended for one of the Lambton 0-6-2T designs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted April 20, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2011 Have been racking my brains over this one, and I think there was a kit by Chilton Ironworks a long time ago which was intended for one of the Lambton 0-6-2T designs. Just looked at an ad in a 1995 MRJ and they did a Kitson 0-6-2 (29, 30 & 31) plus the ex Taff Vale 02 (52) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Just looked at an ad in a 1995 MRJ and they did a Kitson 0-6-2 (29, 30 & 31) plus the ex Taff Vale 02 (52) Maybe it's just an optical illusion, but - ignoring the cab - doesn't no.29 look a bit like the ex-NBR "N15" class? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentRaven Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Hello, I'm looking at scratch building no 5 in 7mm gauge. I haven't been able to locate the plans, but, I'm intrigued by the possibility that no 5 and her sisters were off-the shelf designs. If that's the case, they should be near identical to the engines supplied to the Neath and Brecon and Rhymney Railways. I'd welcome opinions,before I commit though. The plans for at least two classes of similar engines are in the recent book, Rhymney Railway Drawings (Welsh Railways Records) by Nigel Nicholson. As for the other 0-6-2's (29, 30 & 31) the ex Taff Vale and Cardiff Railway engines were nearly all Kitson products. as were the LNER N6 (but with Belpaire boilers) and N11. Kitson 0-6-2's are found on many railway companies books, so getting access to plans might be easier. In each case theres a lot of detail at http://www.lambtonlocomotivestrust.co.uk/ which incidently confirms that across the principal diamensions, No 5 is remarkably similar to a design in the Rhymney Railway book. regards Russell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieb Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Tennents Trains are advertising one in RM for £40 (unbuilt).They may still have it http://www.tennentstrainsofhalesowen.co.uk/entry.html No connection blah blah blah Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Tennents Trains are advertising one in RM for £40 (unbuilt).They may still have it... Spotted that one as well.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieb Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Spotted that one as well.... I'm surprised you didn't buy it,given what I've read on here about your unbuilt kit mountain! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I'm surprised you didn't buy it,given what I've read on here about your unbuilt kit mountain! Don't give me ideas.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumblestripe Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I seem to remember that No. 5 was indeed a standard R. Stephenson design, but with a cut down cab to accommodate the restrictive loading gauge on the Lambton? Stephensons, like their contemporaries would not have designed new locomotives for a one off order from a small line in NE England, they would offer a solution from their catalogue (as it were) and tailor it to the needs of the customer. Another possible source of information is the Ken Hoole Study Centre in Darlington. I don't know if they got any material from Stephensons but might be worth an enquiry? Ken Hoole Study Centre, Darlington Mind this is from memory and my memory... sorry what was I saying? Nurse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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