Tim Hale Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Hi, We are attempting to hardwire the small Oz decoder into a Bachmann Jinty and utilise the stay-alive. Some instructions would come in very handy at this point, especially as regards the stay-alive. DesA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 15, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2011 Tim The stay alive has blue and black leads. The decoder has blue and black leads sticking out one end. Solder blue to blue, black to black, add shrink-wrap. Job done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hale Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 Thanks Ian, if you had not responded I would have been none the wiser- I have written to DCC Concepts requesting instructions with absolutely no response. DesA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Mc Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Hi Here again DSA is a copy of the instructions I sent to you via PM on the 26 Feb 2011. I know you got them because you replied. Step 1 Test loco on DC and make sure it is a good runner. Identify 8 pin plug in loco and confirm continuity with a multimeter. Step 2 Decide placement location of decoder. Fit loco decoder making sure pin 1 on decoder (orange) lines up with pin 1 (orange) on loco. No need to put heat shrink on decoder but you can use a some tape to hold in place. Visually inspect loco decoder to make sure everything is ok and confirm with a multimeter. Step 3 Test loco on clean track, and confirm direction is correct. Run it in forward, reverse. Remove loco from track and all power sources. Step 4 Identity dark blue and black wire coming out of bottom of decoder (pair of wires by themselves). Find a suitable location for capacitor. Trim wire to length to suit capacitor location. Step 5 Place heat shrink on the dark blue and black wire. Solder dark blue wire from capacitor to dark blue wire coming out of the bottom right hand side of the decoder. Place heat shrink over solder joint and heat until secure. Step 6 Repeat above for the black wire. Step 7 Do a visual inspection and make sure everything is ok. Test with multimeter. Test loco on track. Once happy put body back on. Cant you work it out from these instructions and with the photos I sent you? Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hale Posted April 23, 2011 Author Share Posted April 23, 2011 Anyone have any idea of the decoder definitions? Which CV's control max speed and is programming* going to possible without this information? Tim *using the SPROG II? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Such basic CVs as maximum speed are defined in the NMRA standard so are common to all decoders, just use the default in decoder pro. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hale Posted April 23, 2011 Author Share Posted April 23, 2011 Cheers Keith, I had trouble with CV5, it seems to crawl at anything less than 45 and then POW! Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BromsMods Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I'm not surprised....... 45 is a very low setting for anything other than a shunter. What did you set CV6 at? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hale Posted April 23, 2011 Author Share Posted April 23, 2011 Without any further info on the CV's I have not been able to do anything more. Has DCC Concepts released any further guidance? DesA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BromsMods Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 No, and you haven't answered my question. If you want help then we can only assist if you provide the information requested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hale Posted April 23, 2011 Author Share Posted April 23, 2011 Without any further info on the CV's I have not been able to do anything more What is the problem? I just need to set up a decoder without any guidance except for help from RMweb members. DesA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BromsMods Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Which is what I'm trying to provide but, since you have clearly changed CV5 I need to know if you also changed CV6 and what value it is set at. As you phrase it, what is the problem with providing that information?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Mc Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 John from Broomsgrove models is trying to be helpful he needs the info so he can advise you properly. I advised you via PM what the issues were. Firstly it has a much larger range than most standard decoders it is not 0-64 but 0-255 Try 180 CV5/top, 40 to 60 for CV6/mid. CV 3 and 4 say 15 and 10 with such low CV6, also try CV2 at say 10 as first half steps will be very small. Make sure controller is at 128 steps. My advice is set it somewhere that suits you using the above and then wait until the instructions are released. Their is a lot more info in the instructions and they will be very unique in their format. This is playing a big part in their delay being so different or unique. I will say it again you were advised via PM what the issues were so please be patient. Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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