Arpleymodeller Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 (edited) Hello Now that Arpley Street has been fully dismantled I have been lacking a continuous run layout to run my expanding fleet of modern image locos and wagons. Work on Dallam TMD will be completed by the end of the year and this will be my future exhibiton layout. However I want to model modern image coal trains. I have been following and photographing the Liverpool Bulk Terminal- Fiddlers Ferry PS and Manisty Wharf - Fiddlers MGRs for a year now. As this is one of the few remaining class 60 hauled diagrams it is a good choice to model. I already have the 60s and HTAs and plan on modelling accurately these DB Schenker & Freightliner Heavy Haul MGRs. Although I will not be able to model a full 23 HTA rake I plan on modelling a 10-11 long HTA rake. I was thinking of modelling Arpley Junction itself however becasue of space I have decided to model a location a mile down the line called 'Monks Siding'. However the trackplan of the real Monks Siding is basic so I have added a stabling siding and a chord with will represet the track that joins Fiddlers Ferry PS. So it will be a model that combines several locations of the ex LNWR freight line so although will not be a replica of the location it will be a distinct model of this freight only line. The layout will consist of two identical baseboards which are both C shape. These will join together to form a rectangular baseboard with a central operating well. The dimensions will be Length - 7ft Width of each baseboard - 2ft ( 4ft in total with 2ft operating well. Trackplan Construction work will start within a month,here are some of my images of the trains that will be modelled 70006 60071 HTAs forming a 6F78 service Loco types that will be the core fleet will be a variety of DB Schenker class 59s,60s and 66s along with Freightliner 66s and 70s. Also there will be the odd DB Schenker 37 and 67. Updates to follow soon... Regards Lewis Edited March 3, 2019 by Arpleymodeller 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 Hello A bit more informaton on the specification. All track will be Peco Streamline with minimum curve radius of 3rd equivalent although will be formed of flexitrack with the largest(outer curve) being 4th radius equivalent. Control will be DCC as standard with Dallams Elite being shared between the two layouts. The points will be run by my tried and trusted method of DC with SPDT switches. The baseboards will be built the same as Dallams,that being 2x1 frame with a chipboard top and fold down legs allowing easy movement if neccesay. I am currently designing a trackplan for the fiddle yard and will post it tommorow. Regards Lewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Lewis, I'll be following this with interest! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 Hello Ken Thanks! Good to know I already have a follower even though construction has yet to commence Updates soon Regards Lewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitbull1845 Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Sounds like a good plan Lewis, plenty of freight. Can't go wrong with that mate. Cheers Scott 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 (edited) Hello Scott Yes heavy freight and no passenger trains,although I do have a Bachy 150 they have never visited the ex LNWR line,might sell it for a 70 or 66! Edited September 5, 2011 by Arpleymodeller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSE DAZ Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Hi Lewis, This sounds great look forward to this one developing Cheers Darren NSE DAZ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Lewis, have you given any thought as to signaling? Will a signal box be featured, or would it be off-scene? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 Yes a signal box will be included,a scratchbuilt replica of Monks Sidings ex LNWR 'box. With regards to signalling the real Monks Siding retains traditional semaphore signals although I may use colour light signals for extra operational interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I wasn't sure because of your mention about this being a mile up from the junction. This has great promise for exhibition! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 (edited) Hello again Ken, What I intend to do is to combine a number of places along the ex LNWR freight only line which runs from Warrington to Liverpool. I am planning on incorporating the cross over and chord that links Fiddlers Ferry PS along with the signal box and level crossing at Monks Siding and also add a stabling siding which in reality is a mile up the line adjacant to Arpley Junction where the line from the run round at Latchford turns off towards the run round facilities at Manchester Ship Canal sidings. I like the name 'Monks Siding' so although the layout will not be a completely accurate replica of the real Monks Siding the model will be a general representation of this line. As with regards to exhibitions I dont have any intention at the present to exhibit it once complete although as there will be a central operating well it does have the potential to be exhibited at a future date. Regards Lewis Edited September 5, 2011 by Arpleymodeller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 It sounds like you're making a very practical adaptation of the prototype. I need to take a look around the area with Google Maps to get my bearings! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 Well Ive been planning this layout for 9 months now,cant wait to get underway with construction! Here is the trackplan for the fiddle yard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted September 5, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2011 Hi Lewis Nice concept. What scale are you modelling? Also, what will the stabling siding be used to stable? cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 (edited) Hi Ben The scale is OO (I will never model any other!) The stabling siding will be able to hold 2 large locos such as 60s and will be used by DB Schenker for stabling locos that may take over from an in bound MGR while its at Fiddlers or just to simply stable locos while they are in between diagrams. Although in reality locos would be stabled at Arpley Yard it is being added to simply enhance operational interest. It could also be used to store crippled wagons while they wait for a mobile repair team to arrive by road! Edited September 5, 2011 by Arpleymodeller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Hi Lewis, this definitely sounds good with 60s on HTAs! I look forward to seeing this one develop. I always used to like seeing the 60s on the HTA sets working from Immingham Docks to Scunthorpe. Quality! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 (edited) Hello Alex Thanks for the photos,I too like 60s on HTAs-they seem suited to each other! The 60s I will be modelling will be all from the DB Schenker operated fleet although as the overhaul program gets underway their numbers will begin to rise. Regards Lewis Edited September 6, 2011 by Arpleymodeller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted September 10, 2011 Author Share Posted September 10, 2011 Hello again, Today construction work on the baseboards has began. By the end of today the scenic board will be completed except for the legs. I plan on building the legs and fiddle yard baseboard by the end of the month with track laying beggining some time in October. I'll upload some images later on tonight. Lewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Lewis, any progress you can show? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 Hello Ken Yes there will be significant progress to show by this weekend. By Saturday the scenic baseboard will be fully built with a start made on the fiddle yard board. Images to follow soon! Regards Leis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I like the concept, but aren't 7' by 4' boards a bit unwieldy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 Well I said images to follow soon so I thought before I have some images of the baseboard ill upload these images of the majority of the current fleet positioned on the part built baseboard( the folding legs will be built tomorrow). One of HTAs that has been worked on. This will be the end vehicle so has been fitted with buffers and conventional coupling as per the real class 60 hauled MGRs. Buffers are Shawplan, the pipes are from a Hornby class 60 while the screw link coupling is from a Bachmann 37. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 (edited) I like the concept, but aren't 7' by 4' boards a bit unwieldy? They do sound small however I have measured out what I want to achieve and the size fits ok. The curves as said are minimum 3rd radius equivalent with the outer curves 4th radius equivalent. All points will be Peco medium radius so the 'train set' look will be removed. 10ft x 5 ft would be better but space doenst allow it! The main purpose of the layout is to model modern MGRs and I can fit a 11 long rake of HTAs which is half of the prototypical rake and can fit 10 HHAs which is a decent length too. On the scenic aspect the main feature is a cross over with a chord which can be accomodated well. Soon when the baseboards are finished the design will show its merit! Regards Lewis Edited September 22, 2011 by Arpleymodeller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswild Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Hi The buffer fitted HTA looks good, nice bit of modelling, I look forward to seeing your progress on this layout, a constant procession of coal trains is an ideal model especially as ther'll be plenty of tugs on the business end , i've got a similar project going nowhere fast at the mo! Chris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 Hi Chris Thanks, I would like to see how your poroject is going, what are you thinking of calling it? Regards Lewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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