RMweb Gold Mr.S.corn78 Posted March 13, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 13, 2012 Hi, just been catching up on 2mm threasds juring a quite bit in work and i have to say im with Alan on this one, it looks amazing and hope to see if when it is out at a show as the 4mm model is good but this will blow it out of the water. Just need to rasie the bar on my 2mm layout now cheers Simon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Simms Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Truly inspirational modelling, Jerry; a reminder that I must try harder!! Incidentally, are you aware of this recording: http://www.dgmlive.com/archive.htm?show=1217 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Harrap Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 First pictures I've seen of this Jerry, it's going to be stunning.........only trouble is by 2020 I shall be nearly 80. Can you speed it up a bit please, Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post queensquare Posted April 30, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) At the Taunton members day this weekend Andy Y kindly took the time to run me through some of the basics of model photography and, to demonstrate, took these superb but rather unforgiving shots of the three signal boxes I have built for Bath. There is a fourth box although not all of them existed at the same time. Why am I building them all? - basically I like signal boxes! The first picture is Bath Station box in MR livery. This box lasted till the end in 1966. The model is scratch built in brass and plsticard and makes use of some etched windows from the old Churchward range. The second is my favourite, the very attractive little Bath Single Line Junction which is a MR period 1 type. Construction is as for the station box. In 1924 the Single Line Junction Box, along with the original Bath Junction Box (the one I haven't built yet), were replaced by the well known Bath Junction box which sat in the V of the Junction and forms the subject of the third picture. This, being an LMS box built in the Midland style utilises the Ratio Kit as the basis although I am far from happy with the paint job and feel that overall it is a bit clumpy by comparison with the other two. This is the box that is most likely to end up in the display cabinet with the Single Line box and the original Junction box being used on the layout. Jerry Edited April 23, 2022 by queensquare 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted April 30, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 30, 2012 Looks very nice: I like signal boxes too. The ratio handrails do look a bit over over scale, but I am involved with the St Albans preserved box and the handrails on the steps are big bits of timber. Your etched ones on the first two boxes may even be a bit skinny! Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted May 1, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2012 Why build just one box when you can build three!!! Great work Jerry Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted May 3, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 3, 2012 Thanks for the kind words chaps. Tim, I think you are probably correct re. the hand rails being a bit skinny. I have no access to an original MR box down here so would be interested in the actual size of those handrails if you could run a tape over them next time you are at the St Albans box. When Andy first blew the pictures up on the screen there were quite a few of the etched bits that I had used which looked a little too 2D but thankfully they don't notice in the flesh. I was kindly given a whole pile of over and under etched bits by, I think, Malcolm Mitchell of Churchward many years ago following an enquiry about getting some windows (this is long before Ratio produced their kit). I still have enough left to do the old Bath Junction box which would complete the set. Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Copleston Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 (edited) At the Taunton members day this weekend Andy Y kindly took the time to run me through some of the basics of model photography and, to demonstrate, took these superb but rather unforgiving shots of the three signal boxes I have built for Bath. There is a fourth box although not all of them existed at the same time. Why am I building them all? - basically I like signal boxes! Me too! Very inspirational models, Jerry. I particularly like the little Bath Single Line Junction Box. So evocative, I can almost hear the wall clock ticking and the line bells 'dinging' just looking at it. With full interiors, are your signal boxes illuminated perchance? They remind me that I must try harder. Many years ago I scratchbuilt a MR box in 2mm finescale, completely out of plastikard (though nothing to compare with your exquisite models) which I was very proud of at the time and with which I even won a few prizes. Sadly though, it melted away one evening after an unfortunate spilt MekPak-related incident on my workbench. Boy, was I gutted! Which reminds me to make one of those multiple holey paint pot holder thingies before it happens again... Anyway, keep up the inspirational 2-mil work. And take no notice of my disparaging remarks about tree-trunks at Taunton - I was only teasing! Can't wait to see it all come together on Queensquare in the not too distant future. Edited May 3, 2012 by Phil Copleston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Sykes Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 They remind me that I must try harder. Many years ago I scratchbuilt a MR box in 2mm finescale, completely out of plastikard (though nothing to compare with your exquisite models) which I was very proud of at the time and with which I even won a few prizes. Sadly though, it melted away one evening after an unfortunate spilt MekPak-related incident on my workbench. Boy, was I gutted! Which reminds me to make one of those multiple holey paint pot holder thingies before it happens again... Being resolutely low-tech, not to mention idle, I attach the solvent bottle to the bench with a big blob of Blu-tack! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrislock Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 (edited) Jerry that little single box is exquisite. Those window etches are great on all the models - I assume they are no longer available? I am really looking forward to seeing this layout develop. Regards Chris Edited May 13, 2012 by Chrislock 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted May 14, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 14, 2012 Jerry that little single box is exquisite. Those window etches are great on all the models - I assume they are no longer available? I am really looking forward to seeing this layout develop. Regards Chris Hi Chris, I don't think the Churchward kits are available anymore but the Ratio kits certainly are and in my experience they are quite happy to sell just the etches. I bought a second set of windows for the Bath Junction box as it has windows all the way round. HTH Jerry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex Duckworth Posted May 14, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 14, 2012 Hello Jerry, very nice signal boxes, especially the large one. The Churchward kits are still available from Modelex (http://www.modelexmodelrailways.co.uk), I bought some etches a couple of weeks ago to adapt for my Oxspring Junction box. Alex. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted May 14, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 14, 2012 Hello Jerry, very nice signal boxes, especially the large one. The Churchward kits are still available from Modelex (http://www.modelexmodelrailways.co.uk), I bought some etches a couple of weeks ago to adapt for my Oxspring Junction box. Alex. Hi Alex, thats realy useful, I may well buy a complete kit for the last of the Bath boxes. Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrislock Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Hi Chris, I don't think the Churchward kits are available anymore but the Ratio kits certainly are and in my experience they are quite happy to sell just the etches. I bought a second set of windows for the Bath Junction box as it has windows all the way round. HTH Jerry That is good news. Do you have a website URL for Ratio? I keep getting suppliers of the models when I search. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted May 14, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 14, 2012 That is good news. Do you have a website URL for Ratio? I keep getting suppliers of the models when I search. Ratio are part of the Peco stable, they can be found here. http://www.peco-uk.com/prodtype.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=3340&numRecordPosition=1 Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Just found this thread, very impressive, very inspiring! The brass work is awesome I also like your photos of the signalboxs and would love to know the technique used to remove the background and fade the image round the edges to white Rgds, StuartM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted June 12, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12, 2012 Just found this thread, very impressive, very inspiring! The brass work is awesome I also like your photos of the signalboxs and would love to know the technique used to remove the background and fade the image round the edges to white Rgds, StuartM Thanks Stuart, afraid I can't take any credit for the photos. Andy Y took them at the members day in Taunton earlier this year whilst demonstrating his methods. I learnt a huge amount but am still a long way from being able to do them myself. Essentialy they were taken against a white background (a handy piece of paper if I remember) and then tidied up in photoshop. I have to say I was thrilled when he sent them to me. Andy outlines many of his techniques in an article in MI1. Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Thanks Jerry, I look forward to seeing more as and when you find the time Rgds, Stuart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted July 1, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 1, 2012 (edited) I have been making slow progress on Bath over the last few months including more work on the soldering marathon that is the train shed roof - more pictures when I get a chance. The main object of this post is to flag up the fantastic resource that is the Aerofilms collection which is now available to the nation via English Heritage here http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/ The site is fully searchable and, whilst only a small proportion of the collection is available so far, it is a fabulous way to while away an hour or two. The pictures are of excellent quality and it is possible to zoom in on them - a great use of lottery funds in my oppinion. Below are a couple of examples of the sort of thing that is available and show Bath Queen Square in 1920 - right at the start of my period. The tree filled square in the centre of the first picture is Queen Square, the SDJ/MR station is centre top. The second picture has the GWR station just off the bottom right corner, the GW goods yard is centre middle. The SDJ/MR complex can be seen stretching across the middle of the picture. I have large copies of both these shots which I got from Aerofilms a number of years ago and the quality is superb, especialy when it is remembered they were taken almost a hundred years ago by someone hanging out the back of a biplane with a large plate camera! They blow up very well revealing an extraudinary amount of detail. Jerry Edited April 27, 2022 by queensquare 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post queensquare Posted July 8, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) First up, as promised, some pictures of the trainshed roof undergoing its trial fitting to the existing station building. I'm pleased to say that it fitted well. The soldering stage is now pretty much complete - next is working out the best way to clean it up ready for priming. This will be followed by fitting the roof sections and the next marathon - slateing them! Then will come glazing although further work on the roof will have to wait as I must crack on with Tucking Mill which is going to Warley in November!! I have recently made the baseboard for the loco shed/goods yard section of the station. Those who were at the members day in Taunton earlier in the year will have seen myself and a number of other conspirators pouring over my wallpaper and bendy stick drawings (no Templot for me). The boards are built almost entirely in 9mm ply. This one being almost a solid top- albeit on two levels to allow for the S&D shed at low level and also the lower Bristol road along the front of the board which wil eventualy include a short working section of the Bath Tramway company. A certain very talented gentleman of this parish has volunteered/been pressganged into making that wonderful bit of MR trackwork in the foreground which starts with a three way into the Midland bridge road yard followed by two single slips forming a cross over on the main running lines, then a double slip and another three way into the Midland loco shed. Talking of volunteers, another very talented member of this Forum has been bullied into etching the tricky bits of the Porte Cochere for the front of the station. You know who you are and many thanks to both of you. A project of this scale is, in reality, barking mad but it is made an awful lot easier when I can pester/bribe/bully some of my modelling friends to help - thanks again. The last couple of pictures are in relation to said trackwork and show the set up for cutting point timbers using a little minicraft bench saw and a hoover nozzle for extraction, clamped in my venerable old workmate. My willing trackwork volunteer has a cunning plan and prefers to work with fibre glass pcb rather than the normal paxolin supplied by the 2mm Association. I sourced some suitable thickness pcb from C&L, picked it up at Railex in Aylesbury and am in the process of cutting it down although its proving to be a bit of a b.......er as, although its only .8mm thick, its incredably tough stuff. Still we're getting there. Jerry Quick edit just to say that in the roof pictures, the track panels are only temporarily put in place as are the cocktail sticks and blutack! Edited July 8, 2012 by queensquare 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted July 8, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2012 Awesome stuff Jerry, just awesome! Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Smith Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Incredible Jerry!! I'm completely in awe. I assume that the large G clamps in the background were used to hold it all together while soldering ;-) Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2mm Andy Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Stunning work Jerry! Nice to see the photo looking down the length of the layout - it really does give a sense of how big the layout is. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold bcnPete Posted July 9, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9, 2012 Mind blowing stuff Jerry Very brave to take on a project this size - I just hope I get a chance to see it one day as it looks set to become a 2mmFS classic... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted July 11, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Thanks all for your kind words. Ian, my collection of G and sash cramps come in very useful for baseboards but the roof was put together in a large jig made of melamine and card, along with my old favourite soldering aid - blutack! When I put it back in the jig to continue work I will take some pictures. Andy, the station and midland yard/sheds area visible in the photo is about 13' feet long and pretty much to scale in length although reduced in width. Behind the camera is Bath junction where the S&D curves away from the line to Mangotsfield and the north. This is all included on the model albeit somewhat compressed. Overall , the layout is just shy of 20' - plenty big enough but not in the Fence Houses bracket. It is, after all, just a two platform branch terminus! Pete, Kim has set the deadline of the 2mm Associations 60th anniversary in 2020 for the layout to make its first of not very many outings. It is designed to go out very occasionaly but is predominantly a home layout. Jerry Edited July 11, 2012 by queensquare 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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