class37418stag Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Hiya I like your narrow layout that why I am aware think about longer narrow layout of stabling point with single servicing depot and I will sort out with track plans Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold bcnPete Posted September 4, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2011 Stu, hi Only just found this thread...by way of looking at your class 150/1 N thread.... How did I miss it? Not only was the first layout very compelling...but continuing on thru' and finding the second shunting plank was an added bonus. Great work - do like simple and compact well executed layouts such as these...staying tuned for more. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapford34102 Posted September 10, 2011 Author Share Posted September 10, 2011 (edited) Hi, With DL's next show only a week away possibly a good time for an update so this is programme so far Shenfield Sat 17th Sept http://www.midessexmrc.org/ Weymouth Sat 29th/Sun 30th Oct http://www.weymouthm...-2/exhibitions/ Canterbury Sat 21st/Sun 22nd Jan http://www.ccmrs.co.uk/Page_4x.html Stowmarket Sun 29th Apr http://www.stowrailclub.org.uk/ Got a couple more in the offing plus a photoshoot with a mag possibly arranged. In spite of my sudden interest in "N" hopefully have some new stuff for next weekend and may be able to get some shots posted beforehand. Cheers Stu Edited November 8, 2011 by lapford34102 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I'm going to shenfield, cant wait to see the layout in the flesh again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapford34102 Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 Hi, Somewhat belatedly an update. Thoroughly enjoyed the Shenfield show and now getting sorted out for the trip to Weymouth which is going to be something of a homecoming as I helped out at my first exhibition back in the late 60's when I belonged to WADMES and they held their week long shows every summer in the Melcombe Regis school. Maybe someone on here remembers them. DL has a couple of new loco's, ones that are moving it away from it's original scenario. A couple of not too good shots but it'll give the idea. Why these ? Hard to explain but a cheap RTR sound 20 started the rot. The only reason I even considered these two was that I'd spent some time idly looking at various books, this website http://www.emgauge70s.co.uk/index.html and going back to Brush Veteran's remarkable photo collection looking for something else which started it all off. If the late 60's/early 70's interests you and you've never had a browse then http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=44175&hilit=brush+veteran 24 pages of inspirational nostalgia for someone of my generation. I used the 20 at Shenfield and found the reaction to a sound loco compared to a non sound one interesting. I think we're still some way from sound being expected on a show layout but I get the feeling we're moving that way however I'm still a bit ambivalent about it. I was at a show fairly recently with a largish layout which featured a diesel MPD with a dozen or so locos all happily burbling away. It may be my hearing but to me it sounded like white noise however I'm sure we each have our own view. I am though curious at getting hands on a Pannier sound chip to see how it sounds and looks as the one sound steamer I've looked at really closely left me feeling like I was watching a film where the actors mouths and the soundtrack were never quite in synch. If you make it to Weymouth do say hello and have a go. It's going to be a long family weekend for me so I'm on my own and any help would be welcome. Stu 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenc Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 hi i will be at weymouth with my layout spenford so will have a chat steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapford34102 Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 hi i will be at weymouth with my layout spenford so will have a chat steve Look forward to it Steve Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Hi Stu, I have just fitted a South West Digital chip in my 20 and I was at a show recently and a Class 20 driver said it was a spot on sound. It rattles like a bag of old nails, the new Bachmann one sounds to me more like an engine thaT has had a rebuild and dose not rattle so much. also with the SWD function 9 is brake and wheel squeal for moving over point work and visitors at the show were amazed by that. All the best Andy. P.S LOVE THE TRACK PLAN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shreives Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Hi i had one of my panniers sound fitted from howes and i think its excellent worth every penny. fantastic layout i love it please keep the pictures coming stuart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60163 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Absolutely fantastic little layout and it's extension plank. Certainly an inspiration! Some of my favorite stock running on a superbly detailed, yet compact layout. Proof that well used RTR with a bit of it and the old standby Electrofrogs can go alot farther than the rivet counters might let on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapford34102 Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Hi, Andrew, I need no convincing the specialist sound chip guys do a good job. My Class 24 has one from Coastal DCC and has an edge over the Bachhy 20. I imagine the it's a lot to how the RTR companies source and install their chips. Are they done here or in China. Perhaps someone out there knows. The point I was trying to make, but perhaps not to well, is that if you pack a lot of sound loco's into a fairly small space the effect can be "garbled" Stuart, good to hear your comments about the Pannier chip. The diesel chips seem to generate a good deal more comment than steam ones. Did you use a normal or micro sized chip ? Thank for the comments 60163. Until I learn to build my own track - probably never - I'm stuck with Peco though as many have proved better than I with a bit of imagination it can look quite good. Thanks Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenc Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 hi stu u have super little layout it was nice to see it in the flesh.it was a great weekend.bet you did not expect to be next to a fellow webber nice to see that 33 with sound on it. in BLUE when i can get picture of the camera i put on here steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapford34102 Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 nice to see that 33 with sound on it. Hi, Yes, very impressive and has made more determined to lash out on one. Anyhow it was good to have your company and help over the weekend, I look forward to seeing any pics you took plus any of Spensford especially when you've fitted the new lights. If W Dorset has a blackout we'll know who to blame.............. Cheers Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenc Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 hi stu have recovered from the weekend.here are 2 pics the others not too good when i got home managed to find how to take the flash off steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapford34102 Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share Posted December 30, 2011 Dapol’s Class 22 has rightly received a positive reception. Overall it’s an impressive first effort for a 4mm loco marred only by a few things that are relatively easy to correct. I can easily forgive them this as even a few years ago a RTR 22 seemed highly unlikely. The OLE warnings are of the late 70’s type so wrong for any 22 and these have replaced by the correct type – see http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/47247-Dapol-class-22-photo-review/page__st__75 Also the cab door windowframes were body coloured and not left unpainted. Also easy to correct though it calls for a steady hand. I’ve also filed down the bufferheads to make them look a bit more like the real thing. Other work has been to add a crew in the cabs as their absence is rather obvious and put in headcode decals rather than use the ones that come with it. The codes themselves are probably quite specious but they were what I could cobble together from what was left on the sheet. I have renumbered it but not for any particular reason except that it seemed a good idea at the time. However Dapol’s printing is pretty tenacious and wasn’t going to go without a fight. I nearly fell into the trap of picking the wrong number given the end detail of this particular model so it does pay to check carefully. The pics aren’t brilliant but I hope give the idea. One thing I have noticed from them is a “bloom” where I varnished over the new numbers. Not really visible under normal lighting but might need remedial work. All the remains now is to weather it which should be a challenge as a bit like Tigers there’s not many of them and they all have different markings. In the unlikely event anyone’s interested a reminder that DL will be at the Canterbury Show on 21st/22nd Jan. Stu 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapford34102 Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 My attempt at weathering a 22. I'm really not sure whether I've actually got this one anywhere near. but I'll live with this for the moment. The distinctive white steaks from the cooler group overflows either side of the fan grill, the white comes from the coolant additives IIRC, vary immensely from loco to loco though seem far worse in their later years. I have a pic of 29 which shows limited streaking. What is difficult to find is decent roof shots so this is based on what can be seen. The base weathering is acrylic with enamels on top. This means that if I do decide to change anything I won't have to do the lot again. Comments/criticsm welcome Stu 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Hi, Stu, that looks fantastic, it's got that look of being work stained, yet not over done, very realistic! Keep up the good work! Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted January 1, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2012 Hi That 22 looks real good. I got a Hattons 28 in blue from my daughter and son in law and wifey brought the sound chip for it. Its made me deside to flog all my EWS and large logo stock on fleebay and go green/blue with a bit of steam thrown in for good messure. I have just GOT to get me one of these :D Regards Lez.Z. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mason Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Superb work, the weathering makes this look so realistic and worked hard but not overdone , great job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyddrail Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Stu, Looks very good, well done. I look forward to taking it for a spin at Canterbury. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 The base weathering is acrylic with enamels on top. Interesting combo Stu, the roof as a whole looks much more convincing than some I've seen done with acrylics, and I like the subtle 'darkness' over the cabs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapford34102 Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 Thanks Gents, the comments are appreciated. Looks very good, well done. I look forward to taking it for a spin at Canterbury You mean it's got move as well....................... Interesting combo Stu, the roof as a whole looks much more convincing than some I've seen done with acrylics, and I like the subtle 'darkness' over the cabs I've been a bit wary of using acrylics for weathering because they've never seemed as "controllable" to me as enamels something I've always put down, rightly or wrongly, to the pigment in acrylic being coarser than enamels. But for this one I decided to have a go. The whole roof was given a fairish coat of dirt, left to dry for a time and then the engine room panels attacked with a flattie brush loaded with thinners to take most, but not all, of it off but leaves it denser around the panel lines. This leaves the cab roofs alone as 22's like some others classes such as the 33's seem to suffer from dirt being attracted to this area, no idea why though. I then went over the whole roof again with a thin coat of dirt to "soften" everything. That just left the exhaust staining to do. What I will be interested in is to see whether acrylic weathering is less prone to the effects of handling than enamels are. Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) Thanks Stu I've been a bit wary of using acrylics for weathering because they've never seemed as "controllable" to me as enamels something I've always put down, rightly or wrongly, to the pigment in acrylic being coarser than enamels. That might have a bearing. I tend to think though it's that the solvent carrier 'flashes off' more quickly, though I believe the right thinners will counteract that What I will be interested in is to see whether acrylic weathering is less prone to the effects of handling than enamels are. Maybe so. A mate has a Bachy 25 that was crudely weathered with acrylics (not by him), and he says nothing will shift them Edited January 1, 2012 by Pennine MC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapford34102 Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 Hi, My Saturday help for the Canterbury Show this weekend has had to pull out at short notice - some things are more important than playing trains - so if anyone fancies having a play then come and have go. Anyhow look forward to seeing people over the weekend. Cheers Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Thanks for the opportunity to play trains at Canterbury. Twas lots of fun! All we need to do now is finish converting you to the dark side of Kadees Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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