James90012 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I purchased one of these chips at the Hartlepool exhibition but unless I'm doing something wrong - it seems to be a bit lacking in the sense that the chip doesn't 'open up' in the same way that a Howes/SWD chip does - is it a case of me operating it incorrectly or am I missing knowledge about the sound chip itself? I intend to fit a bass reflex in due course to improve sound quality - but this wouldn't affect how the 47 doesn't seem to go to anything other than about 40% power (well that's what it sounds like). Thanks for any advice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 There is definitely a different driving style to one of Bif's v4 programs! I don’t have his 47 so this is from experience with other classes. You don’t seem to get ‘’full thrash’’ unless you have the throttle wide open, from starting off, or when in motion. I’ve compensated for this by setting cv’s 5&6 at a low level and setting 3&4 at a high level. This does allow me to ‘’play’’ with the range of sounds without the loco shooting off! Hth, kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James90012 Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 I guess it's just a case of messing about with the CVs then! What kind of things can you change on a sound chip? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James90012 Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 I seem to only have German instructions for the decoder - do you happen to know what the range of those CVS is? Is it 0-63? I changed 5+6 to 15 and 3+4 to 30 but the loco wouldnt drive anymore - and I had to reset Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_long Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 James Bif (legomanbiffo) is a member on here, fire off a PM to him he'll help you out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legomanbiffo Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 James, the driving response of the chip may take a little getting used to but once you get the idea of how it works you'll be able to get the loco to do exactly what you want, on demand, in almost all circumstances. For example, from stationary you can trigger one of three different departures which is determined by how wide you open the throttle. Open it slightly for a very sedate pull-away, or crank it wide open for 'full thrash', plus there's a 'medium' pull-away in the middle somewhere. The loco won't shoot off because of the high inertia settings (100 ton locos don't shoot off, even when light engine). Similarly when driving along, use exaggerated movements of the throttle to trigger either thrash or coasting, and once they are triggered, return the throttle to the speed setting you desire. Just out of interest, what loco are you running it in? The chip is set up for the Bachmann loco and may need a simple adjustment for optimum performance in a Heljan / Hornby / Lima / Vitrains, but I'm happy to assist you in doing that, just send me a PM. You can also download a four-page helpsheet here; http://www.dckits-devideos.co.uk/doc/6.doc The bass reflex speaker will improve your sound no-end, particularly if mounted in the underframe facing down. Hope this helps, Bif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 James, the driving response of the chip may take a little getting used to but once you get the idea of how it works you'll be able to get the loco to do exactly what you want, on demand, in almost all circumstances. For example, from stationary you can trigger one of three different departures which is determined by how wide you open the throttle. Open it slightly for a very sedate pull-away, or crank it wide open for 'full thrash', plus there's a 'medium' pull-away in the middle somewhere. The loco won't shoot off because of the high inertia settings (100 ton locos don't shoot off, even when light engine). Similarly when driving along, use exaggerated movements of the throttle to trigger either thrash or coasting, and once they are triggered, return the throttle to the speed setting you desire. Just out of interest, what loco are you running it in? The chip is set up for the Bachmann loco and may need a simple adjustment for optimum performance in a Heljan / Hornby / Lima / Vitrains, but I'm happy to assist you in doing that, just send me a PM. You can also download a four-page helpsheet here; http://www.dckits-de...co.uk/doc/6.doc The bass reflex speaker will improve your sound no-end, particularly if mounted in the underframe facing down. Hope this helps, Bif The English Instructions can be downloaded if required from the ESU Website. Any more problems/Advice, please let us know. Charlie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 (100 ton locos don't shoot off, even when light engine). Want a bet? Put the straight airbrake on a 56 and open the throttle and wait for some amps then release the brakes and wayhay better than a fairground ride. (Or so I'm told, I would never do this of course!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonp Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Brian, When I did my driver training at Toton in 1989/90, I was trained on Class 56 as the "basic" traction. You are quite right! Paul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I am sure I timed one 0-60 and the seconds it took were in single digits or not far off! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 I am sure I timed one 0-60 and the seconds it took were in single digits or not far off! Or the Tyne Yard to Millerhill light engine run when a light engine 56 was put out behind a northbound HST and rarely saw anything other then yellows ahead of it all the way back to Edinburgh.......! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 A full range of Legomanbiffoo sound will be available at Southwold & St Andrews shows in August from DC Kits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Had interesting read.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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