Chuffer Davies Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 24 minutes ago, LNER4479 said: Well, a solid day's running, layout generally behaving itself. Hope those who watched on the link enjoyed what you saw. We'll aim to have the link up and running again tomorrow 1100 to 1500 ish. Indeed I very much enjoyed watching the layout. Sadly the limitations of the video prevented us from seeing the layout in its full glory but just being able to socialise around a model railway at last was pleasure enough. Thank to you all, Frank 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LNER4479 Posted October 3, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) Some pix whilst we prepare to restart: We're at the end of Move 26. Running in turn B17 awaits departure back to Doncaster at 8.7pm An unusual viewpoint, not only highlighting the lovely iron ore hopper wagons, but more specifically Paul's excellent work to clad the normally non-visible elevation of the 'old' shed building. I say 'non-visible' but it does have a habit of creeping into pictures ... so now all should be well. Situation normal in the fiddle yard. Jonathan's lovely new quad set, instantly entered into traffic. So we now have a Quint, Quad and Triplet of these old Howlden recycled 6 and 8 wheeled stock. If you want to tune in today, then it's all up and running on: https://join.skype.com/gZP8Cox59P6I Edited October 3, 2021 by LNER4479 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Sim Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Thanks chaps for the viewing opportunity, it was great to see everyone again and also see Grantham again. Hoepfully not long will I can come over and actually play trains with you all. 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted October 4, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 4, 2021 Anymore photos?? Although I was there I never got time to get any photos.. Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted October 4, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 4, 2021 Oops....yes I did take a photo And what is the Maestro of the fiddle yard upto??? Answers on a post card.. Baz 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) I think this is before we started running, so what I was probably doing was either looking for the new J6 to give it an extended run or trying to work out which signals to set to allow it to complete a circuit. I don't remember you taking the picture so I imagine I was talking to Red Leader and taking instruction. I see one of the New Zealand viewers (Mr. Leary) had already joined by then. Edited October 4, 2021 by jwealleans 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jwealleans Posted October 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) Some of my pictures from the weekend. It was quite an understated affair, not many of the regular crew were able to make it. Nice to have Steve Pearce (31A) with us both days and I hope we haven't put him off for life. I mainly photographed newer locos and cameos round the engine shed, which is generally right in front of us as we take tea or have lunch and so lends itself to spotting what might be good pictures. Both the J6s I seem to have been building for ages made their first appearance. This is 3523 on a down mineral, getting an extended run on Sunday morning. In the running sequence, whatever it had been doing brought it on shed as it later turned up on a passenger working. The other one, 3554, also ended up on shed, here in company with 4493 Woodcock and C1 4401. Later in the day and the running order all 3 had moved on, to be replaced by two generations of East Coast workhorses, C7 706 and P2 2005. Round the back of the old shed, Mr. Nicholas has always professed to be a big fan of 6229 in unstreamlined form. While at the front of the new shed the pioneer A1 made an appearance after being relieved on a Leeds express. Your intrepid photographer was not going to miss an interesting wagon in the yard. LNWR glass wagon from a Mousa Models resin kit. While at the far side of the running lines, it looks as though an LMS cripple was having to be unloaded. Later on in the day there was some deviation from the booked motive power on some services... ... which I'm afraid Barry took as an excuse to be very silly indeed. For those who can't believe their eyes: I have to say it had an impressive turn of speed - at one point it was peeling it's own stickers off through sheer velocity. Other than one short length of platform, it turned out to be in gauge as well. This was probably more plausible, though pretty far fetched in its own right. Now onwards to Leeds. Edited October 6, 2021 by jwealleans 28 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted October 5, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 hour ago, jwealleans said: Nice to have Steve Pearce (31A) with us both days and I hope we haven't put him off for life. Thank you for having me, guys - I think I'll have recovered in time for Leeds! Joking apart, a very enjoyable weekend; good to challenge the grey matter sometimes! 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted October 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 6, 2021 15 hours ago, jwealleans said: Some of my pictures from the weekend. It was quite an understated affair, not many of the regular crew were able to make it. Nice to have Steve Pearce (31A) with us both days and I hope we haven't put him off for life. I mainly photographed newer locos and cameos round the engine shed, which is generally right in front of us as we take tea or have lunch and so lends itself to spotting what might be good pictures. Both the J6s I seem to have been building for ages made their first appearance. This is 3523 on a down mineral, getting an extended run on Sunday morning. In the running sequence, whatever it had been doing brought it on shed as it later turned up on a passenger working. The other one, 3554, also ended up on shed, here in company with 4493 Woodcock and C1 4401. Later in the day and the running order all 3 had moved on, to be replaced by two generations of East Coast workhorses, C7 706 and P2 2005. Round the back of the old shed, Mr. Nicholas has always professed to be a big fan of 6229 in unstreamlined form. While at the front of the new shed the pioneer A1 made an appearance after being relieved on a Leeds express. Your intrepid photographer was not going to miss an interesting wagon in the yard. LNWR glass wagon from a Mousa Models resin kit. While at the far side of the running lines, it looks as though an LMS cripple was having to be unloaded. Later on in the day there was some deviation from the booked motive power on some services... ... which I'm afraid Barry took as an excuse to be very silly indeed. For those who can't believe their eyes: I have to say it had an impressive turn of speed - at one point it was peeling it's own stickers off through sheer velocity. Other than one short length of platform, it turned out to be in gauge as well. This was probably more plausible, though pretty far fetched in its own right. Now onwards to Leeds. Ere! I only brought it along.. I didn't put the red with yellow propeller on the track and I didn't drive it... Baz.. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LNER4479 Posted October 6, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 23 minutes ago, Barry O said: Ere! I only brought it along.. I didn't put the red with yellow propeller on the track and I didn't drive it... Baz.. I beg to differ... 7 1 3 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Has anyone worked the scale speed out at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted October 6, 2021 Author Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) About 20 seconds for a lap, equates to approx 180mph (scale)? Edited October 6, 2021 by LNER4479 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted October 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 6, 2021 bugggrrrrittt Forgot Red Leader had his video going....but it can go faster! Baz 1 1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LNER4479 Posted October 8, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) Now then, away from the fun and the frolics, there has been some hard work going on. Well, sort of ... What on earth is going on here, I hear you cry? Anyone ... Well, whatever, the crazy fool is only attacking one of his viaduct parapets with a girt big 7mm drill. Has he finally 'lost' it? There is a clue in the form of some spindly brass thingies to the top right of the drill... Aha! (possibly). The parapet now sports these rather odd appendages. The balance weight is the giveaway - there's some signalling installation going on. But such things could never just sit there looking pretty, that would never do. Here are the motors being prepared, using a Heath Robinson arrangement (I would never dignify it by use of the word 'design') that has worked (after a fashion) on the two shunt signals to the south of the station. They work on an 'over-throw' arrangement, the rather violent flick of the Peco motors being put to good use to create a longer travel than otherwise available, with the slender-looking spring arrangement holding them in position (on a good day). And now in position, under the board. The rotating drive rods from the signal heads come through the soldered-up brass tubes then bent 90 degrees to give some back and forth travel for the motors to work with, in conjunction with a brass pin soldered to the bent over drive rod. I had done some pre-wiring, but Andrew's first job on arrival Saturday morning was to link it all up to one of his motor drive units that can cope with a continuous supply from the associated relay panel even though it's only a pulse that is actually required (the detailed electronix is 'lost' on me after that point). Ladies and gents - I give you North Box lever No.24, a well-used lever in the sequence as there are many back and forth shunting moves that set back inside these signals (hence worth the effort to install), the down Nottingham effectively being the north end station shunting spur. If you think that the mounting of signals like this seems a little preposterous then nay, not so ... although we do run in to a slight historical anomaly here. Due to the fact that the layout sports the post-1942 track layout for the Nottingham services, the equivalent signals were not configured so pre-war; however, POST-war, there were indeed two shunt signals side-by-side on the parapet. So I feel that it is typical enough of the location and the steam-age era in general. If I feel so moved, then I might even get round to putting signal numbers on them ... which will have to be '24A' and '24B' as, on the model, they're operated by the same lever, using the logic from trailing crossover No.28 to determine which one actually fires. Reversing lever 24 also locks crossover 28 accordingly. If you bring your opera glasses with you, see them in action at the Leeds show! Edited October 8, 2021 by LNER4479 16 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 For a moment there I thought you were installing OHLE. 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 28 minutes ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: For a moment there I thought you were installing OHLE. There's always one, isn't there? 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, LNER4479 said: There's always one, isn't there? My mum always said I was a right one. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: My mum always said I was a right one. My mum said - and continues to say - something similar. So that would make us a right pair. Hmm ... perhaps we should get back to the modelling? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Fox 34F Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 14:34, LNER4479 said: I beg to differ... Barry, I love the innocent look on your face! “Not me Guv?” Paul 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Fox 34F Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 hours ago, LNER4479 said: Now then, away from the fun and the frolics, there has been some hard work going on. Well, sort of ... What on earth is going on here, I hear you cry? Anyone ... Well, whatever, the crazy fool is only attacking one of his viaduct parapets with a girt big 7mm drill. Has he finally 'lost' it? There is a clue in the form of some spindly brass thingies to the top right of the drill... Aha! (possibly). The parapet now sports these rather odd appendages. The balance weight is the giveaway - there's some signalling installation going on. But such things could never just sit there looking pretty, that would never do. Here are the motors being prepared, using a Heath Robinson arrangement (I would never dignify it by use of the word 'design') that has worked (after a fashion) on the two shunt signals to the south of the station. They work on an 'over-throw' arrangement, the rather violent flick of the Peco motors being put to good use to create a longer travel than otherwise available, with the slender-looking spring arrangement holding them in position (on a good day). And now in position, under the board. The rotating drive rods from the signal heads come through the soldered-up brass tubes then bent 90 degrees to give some back and forth travel for the motors to work with, in conjunction with a brass pin soldered to the bent over drive rod. I had done some pre-wiring, but Andrew's first job on arrival Saturday morning was to link it all up to one of his motor drive units that can cope with a continuous supply from the associated relay panel even though it's only a pulse that is actually required (the detailed electronix is 'lost' on me after that point). Ladies and gents - I give you North Box lever No.24, a well-used lever in the sequence as there are many back and forth shunting moves that set back inside these signals (hence worth the effort to install), the down Nottingham effectively being the north end station shunting spur. If you think that the mounting of signals like this seems a little preposterous then nay, not so ... although we do run in to a slight historical anomaly here. Due to the fact that the layout sports the post-1942 track layout for the Nottingham services, the equivalent signals were not configured so pre-war; however, POST-war, there were indeed two shunt signals side-by-side on the parapet. So I feel that it is typical enough of the location and the steam-age era in general. If I feel so moved, then I might even get round to putting signal numbers on them ... which will have to be '24A' and '24B' as, on the model, they're operated by the same lever, using the logic from trailing crossover No.28 to determine which one actually fires. Reversing lever 24 also locks crossover 28 accordingly. If you bring your opera glasses with you, see them in action at the Leeds show! Red Leader, Nice to see these Dollies added. Have had the pleasure of inspecting the real bridge for 18 years, I can confirm there are a couple of the Signal Wire roller brackets in position at the base of the parapet. Paul 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, Flying Fox 34F said: Nice to see these Dollies added. Have had the pleasure of inspecting the real bridge for 18 years, I can confirm there are a couple of the Signal Wire roller brackets in position at the base of the parapet. Paul Thanks Paul - good to know. A little indistinct but can be seen in the background of this (cropped) pic 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 26 minutes ago, LNER4479 said: Thanks Paul - good to know. A little indistinct but can be seen in the background of this (cropped) pic and, given that we all love looking at pictures of Grantham(!), you can also see them on various pictures from a pleasant scroll down this page from John and co's excellent site (best one is approx half way down, in the background of a DMU arriving in the East Bay) http://www.tracksthroughgrantham.uk/railway-life-at-grantham/signal-boxes-and-signalling/grantham-north-signal-box/grantham-north-signal-box-an-introduction/ Of note are the pre-war photos; equivalent signals assumed to be in the melee of arms associated with the home post of the Up Nottingham road - but note the lack of the facing crossover which IS included on the layout. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmditch Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Please may I enquire if No.3637A is behaving itself, and whether it might need any time in works? (Sorry I don't think I will get to Leeds, but might manage Doncaster.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted October 8, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: For a moment there I thought you were installing OHLE. Grand idea, some Mk3 OLE would look wonderful with class 90s. Edited October 8, 2021 by Clive Mortimore 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Clive Mortimore said: some M3 OLE would look wonderful with class 90s. You'll be busy, operating that on your own. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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