RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 20, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2012 19 May 2001 HAA 354640 in consist of 6F83, 00:30 Fiddlers Ferry - Liverpool Bulk empties Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 20, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2012 21 May 2001 More of this wagon here HAA 353873 dumped on the site of Alexandra Dock Station after a derailment (2+ years ago) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Was that the derailment that took out the signalling on the Southport line and also a lot of parked cars? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 20, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2012 Was that the derailment that took out the signalling on the Southport line and also a lot of parked cars? Not sure to be honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 30, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 30, 2012 Liverpool Docks 19 May 2001 HAA 351323 in consist of 6F90, (SO) 04.10 Walton Old Junction - Liverpool Bulk empties HAA 354093 in consist of 6F90, (SO) 04.10 Walton Old Junction - Liverpool Bulk empties Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted October 1, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2012 Liverpool docks 19 May 2001 HAA 350597 in consist of 6F85, (SO) 05.15 Walton Old Junction - Liverpool Bulk Terminal HMA 352792 in consist of 6F85, (SO) 05.15 Walton Old Junction - Liverpool Bulk Terminal HAA 351161 in consist of 6F85, (SO) 05.15 Walton Old Junction - Liverpool Bulk Terminal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted October 1, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2012 19 May 2001 HAA 350609 in consist of 7F81, SO, 10:11 Liverpool Bulk - Fiddlers Ferry Power Station HMA 352403 in consist of 7F81, SO, 10:11 Liverpool Bulk - Fiddlers Ferry Power Station HAA 353932 in consist of 7F81, SO, 10:11 Liverpool Bulk - Fiddlers Ferry Power Station HAA 354816 in consist of 7F81, SO, 10:11 Liverpool Bulk - Fiddlers Ferry Power Station Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debs. Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Going through the Daleks at Fiddlers Ferry on the 47`s slow-speed controller, one could feel the jolt/clunk (even up-front on the footplate) of the HAA doors being tripped; right-back to the final wagon......even as young as I was at the time: I was struck by the impressive forces at work in the unloading operations. If I recall correctly: in the mid/late 70`s, we often went out L.E from Birkenhead to Bold, Agecroft and Bickershaw Collieries to collect loaded MGR`s.......there was another large-mine we went to in Lancs., but I can`t remember its name (?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted October 4, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2012 f I recall correctly: in the mid/late 70`s, we often went out L.E from Birkenhead to Bold, Agecroft and Bickershaw Collieries to collect loaded MGR`s.......there was another large-mine we went to in Lancs., but I can`t remember its name (?). Parkside ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debs. Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Parkside ? Thank you, Dave...that was the one! Just had a Google and that site`s all long-gone, along with the others in and around Lancs........and we`re importing Australian, Chinese and Polish coal for Fiddlers Ferry now; it`s a mad-world! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Going through the Daleks at Fiddlers Ferry on the 47`s slow-speed controller, one could feel the jolt/clunk (even up-front on the footplate) of the HAA doors being tripped; right-back to the final wagon......even as young as I was at the time: I was struck by the impressive forces at work in the unloading operations. If I recall correctly: in the mid/late 70`s, we often went out L.E from Birkenhead to Bold, Agecroft and Bickershaw Collieries to collect loaded MGR`s.......there was another large-mine we went to in Lancs., but I can`t remember its name (?). In earlier years a propelling move at Fiddlers Ferry required a fleet of CAR brake vans, such as http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brbrakediag507/e2001e129 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brbrakediag507/e28d6b94b http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brbrakediag507/e2d8aaa73 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brbrakediag507/e2c0ec4bc I don't know when this finished, before 1993. The yellow was for the Coal sector livery introduced in the summer of 1988 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brhaapost80/e2fb4e642 Some of the photographs show a painted out diamond. This was the Currock wagon works "fox" or Barry wagon works "ship". Please recall that the HMRS has published a book about MGR including how they were worked http://www.hmrs.org.uk/books/bookdetails.php?bookid=1036 Paul Bartlett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debs. Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 In earlier years a propelling move at Fiddlers Ferry required a fleet of CAR brake vans, such as http://PaulBartlett....ag507/e2001e129 http://PaulBartlett....ag507/e28d6b94b http://PaulBartlett....ag507/e2d8aaa73 http://PaulBartlett....ag507/e2c0ec4bc I don't know when this finished, before 1993. The yellow was for the Coal sector livery introduced in the summer of 1988 http://PaulBartlett....ost80/e2fb4e642 Some of the photographs show a painted out diamond. This was the Currock wagon works "fox" or Barry wagon works "ship". Please recall that the HMRS has published a book about MGR including how they were worked http://www.hmrs.org....php?bookid=1036 Paul Bartlett Thank you Paul.....and that lovely book is surely on my Christmas wish-list! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Dave, I hope you don't mind me adding this photo of an empty coal train passing Bidston East Jcn SB on it's way to Bidston Dock, taken some time in 1985. note the battered state of the nearest two wagons and the staining inside from the coal load. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 The deformation of the four internal crossbeams and the resulting buckling of the wagon sides led to their removal from HAAs. Later batches had strengthening "shoulders" running along just below the top edge of the sides, as seen in the third wagon from the bottom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40044 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Was that the derailment that took out the signalling on the Southport line and also a lot of parked cars? T'was indeed. July 1998 I think it was. Certainly around the same time as the derailment of a coal train at Dent, and the derailment of a steel train near Smethwick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I shot this video some year back and put it on youtube... Most of my video's get around a hundred views but for some reason this one's got approaching 31000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I shot this video some year back and put it on youtube... Most of my video's get around a hundred views but for some reason this one's got approaching 31000. Thanks for posting that....I have never seen this process in action before. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Quite hypnotic. Interesting to watch the sequence of how different bottom doors of the HAAs are opened to provide a more even flow of unloaded coal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 They went past me several times a day and i hardly gave them another look. I had intentions of filming the trackside door gear in operation etc... then they were gone.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Is it really 30 years ago when these photos of MGR trains were taken? The first shows a Cl.47 on the coal loop at Ratcliffe - note the coal stockpile in possible anticipation of the Miner's Strike a year later. The second picture, on a typical dull day at Toton, sees a Cl.56 heading down from the High Level Goods lines. Just everyday sights gone forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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