Sir Madog Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 According to Agenoria´s web page, GWR 28 & 29 survived into the early 1950´s. Following nationalization, where those locos ever painted in BR´s early colouring scheme? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonman Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 According to Agenoria´s web page, GWR 28 & 29 survived into the early 1950´s. Following nationalization, where those locos ever painted in BR´s early colouring scheme? Without finding a contemporary quote from the Railway Observer or a glimpse at the relevant engine record cards it's impossible to say, but as they seem to have spent most of their last years in store or on loan to Hafod Colliery and neither ever received a smokebox number plate, it might be reasonable to assume they did not receive BR livery. That's my guess, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Madog Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 GWR 28 & 29 were converted to Pannier tank engines in 1924/1928. This conversion made them look closely to GWR 1366, at least to the untrained eye. Was there much of a difference between those two classes? If not, I´d like to convert an Agenoria GWR 28 kit into a GWR 1366. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 GWR 28 & 29 were converted to Pannier tank engines in 1924/1928. This conversion made them look closely to GWR 1366, at least to the untrained eye. Was there much of a difference between those two classes? In a word, yes. The 1366 class had a much higher later style cab, taller chimney, lower pitched boiler, different wheelbase, and was about 1'6" shorter. That's only the start as there were many other differences. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Madog Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 Oops - this would be a major re-work! I ´d better stay away from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 18, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2012 If you have a chance to see a copy of RCTS part Ten, (GWR Absorbed engines 1922-47) there are pictures of No. 28 (still with saddle tanks) when with both CM&DPR & GWR and 29 as rebuilt with panniers, with & without spark arresting chimney (plates K333-336) Text on pages K218-9 lists the history of these locos, but does not mention livery! Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 In addition to the small photos in the RCTS volume, Russell's Pictorial Record of GW Absorbed Engines has two full page photos of Cleobury/28. The first shows it still with saddle tank and nameplate, but after some early modifications at Swindon. The second shows it in 1951 before going to Hafod. It's difficult to tell whether it is in green or black from this latter photo, but there is no trace of any lining or lettering. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 21, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 21, 2012 Is it possible they might have been black all the time? Is there any evidence they were painted green when absorbed by the GWR? Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Is it possible they might have been black all the time? Is there any evidence they were painted green when absorbed by the GWR? Considering the major rebuild (pannier tank fitting etc) these locos had, it is certain they would have received the standard GWR green livery at that time. (All other contemporary rebuilds of absorbed locos appeared in green.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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