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Thanks again to Kenneth Gray's tenacity in the line's final fortnight, we have this classic portrait of D192 on 1S65, which I think coincidentally answers a conundrum posed way back on this thread, as to which Peak had the larger, squared-off headcode panel. In the earlier shot we saw her arriving at Hawick, with a shedplate below the unusual (perhaps unique) feature. Now we have a positive i.d. Fantastic! :D

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=32380

 

And a classic branchline freight shot, with the ubiquitous Jocko at the helm, courtesy of Bruce

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=32384

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classic portrait of D192 on 1S65, which I think coincidentally answers a conundrum posed way back on this thread, as to which Peak had the larger, squared-off headcode panel. In the earlier shot we saw her arriving at Hawick, with a shedplate below the unusual (perhaps unique) feature.

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=32380

 

That's interesting, hard to see from that shot just what it is (not aware of any physical diffs in the panels, I wonder if it's some sort of paint treatment). Any chance of a link to the earlier shot Chard?

 

And a classic branchline freight shot, with the ubiquitous Jocko at the helm, courtesy of Bruce

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=32384

 

Bruce might well know different, but that looks sadly like a demolition train

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and if you're eagle-eyed, you can catch a glimpse of a van about to be attached to the rear by the Hawick station pilot.

 

As Bernard says that stub of the Berwickshire branch was closed on the following Monday, so Friday 16th July 1965 was the last Gala - St Boswells- Earlston - Gordon - Greenlaw working.

 

Here's a typical freight in March 1965 passing the site of Fans Loanend siding, closed in the 50s.

 

Bruce

 

 

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Here's part of Stobs Camp sidings up for sale at Acreknowe, at £95,000.00 per serviced plot, assuming you've got that lying around.

 

http://www.scottishproperty.co.uk/pdf/D/D011733.pdf

 

 

 

In that part of the world when they say 'offers over'they usually mean 'offers considerably over'. :O

The brain is ticking over estimating the cost of connecting to the leccy and the water supply and the provision of drainage. Not to mention the upkeep of the access road. Then it's a case of finding a builder mad enough to work there. It would be a bit too isolated for me.

Bernard

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I wonder if this will affect the line's solum, or is that notionally protected south of Hawick?

Judging by the small location map on the PDF there's a bit of distance between the plots and the solum. Having been through the difficulties of obtaining planning permission on another part of the solum a bit further south, any property developer proposing building on the old line would struggle to get anything passed by the SBC planning department!

 

Perhaps of interest to anyone into that kind of thing, the planning hoops and hurdles I am talking about involve a long stretch of the solum stretching south from Whitrope - and it was granted - but that's maybe as it was for its original intended purpose?!

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In response to a question in a PM, I hope no-one objects to me posting a wee bit of gen here in public...

 

Most of the WR DMU photos seem to feature, in this order:

 

Met-Cam triples Edinburgh - Hawick

Gloucester twins Peebles loop

Lightweights Carlisle - Hawick

 

However, the Met-Cam power-trailer combo was far from unknown on the line. And here one of the Standard Works (Caplan) comes to our aid. On page 31 we see what looks very much like 64H's SC51247 leading possibly SC56405 at Hawick in GSYP in an undated photo. This is further interesting in that this twin was only at Leith Central (Home of the Borders DMU) during 1966.

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In response to a question in a PM, I hope no-one objects to me posting a wee bit of gen here in public...

 

Most of the WR DMU photos seem to feature, in this order:

 

Met-Cam triples Edinburgh - Hawick

Gloucester twins Peebles loop

Lightweights Carlisle - Hawick

 

However, the Met-Cam power-trailer combo was far from unknown on the line. And here one of the Standard Works (Caplan) comes to our aid. On page 31 we see what looks very much like 64H's SC51247 leading possibly SC56405 at Hawick in GSYP in an undated photo. This is further interesting in that this twin was only at Leith Central (Home of the Borders DMU) during 1966.

 

Thanks 'Chard, just the ticket I needed and even more so being GYSP.

 

Sure I've got that publication somewhere.

 

Thanks for your efforts.

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From a set I don't believe we've featured before, mainly because of the collection owner's mispelling of Waverly (sic). Anyway, worth a click to see some of a wintry Bowshank with its proto-concrete architecture and other structures on the northern section, including Eskbank footbridge.

 

http://simon681.foto.../p64061091.html

 

Anybody know why Bowshank Tunnel south portal had an overlaid portal frontage? Was it simply to match the new retaining walls?

 

http://simon681.fotopic.net/p64061092.html

 

The aperture of the portal does look rather odd at this end. Partially rebuilt? Strengthened?

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Anybody know why Bowshank Tunnel south portal had an overlaid portal frontage? Was it simply to match the new retaining walls?

 

http://simon681.fotopic.net/p64061092.html

 

The aperture of the portal does look rather odd at this end. Partially rebuilt? Strengthened?

 

 

A few more shots here. http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=18797151

The odd shape does, to me at least, indicate some sort of disturbance that needed remedial work. Particularly noticeable when compared the other end in it's original state.

Bernard

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Anybody know why Bowshank Tunnel south portal had an overlaid portal frontage? Was it simply to match the new retaining walls?

 

http://simon681.fotopic.net/p64061092.html

 

The aperture of the portal does look rather odd at this end. Partially rebuilt? Strengthened?

 

There was work done, I think, in the early 60s to Bowshank at the south end. Our Geography teacher travelled by train and he said something about the tunnel being shortened and the work making his train from Melrose to Hawick run late some days.

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Hi All,

 

Please note...

 

Work appears to have started again!

 

Scaffolding has appeared around two of piers of the Lothianbridge Viaduct near Newtongrange.

 

Not had chance to go and speak to the contractors.

 

However, this appears to be initial work and a scafflod frame to protect the buildings of the caravan park from damage by falling objects.

 

Thanks

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Hi All,

 

Please note...

 

Work appears to have started again!

 

Scaffolding has appeared around two of piers of the Lothianbridge Viaduct near Newtongrange.

 

Not had chance to go and speak to the contractors.

 

However, this appears to be initial work and a scafflod frame to protect the buildings of the caravan park from damage by falling objects.

 

Thanks

Phil

 

What sort of state of repair is the structure in? Its a fine looking bridge for sure but I wonder what state of repair its in.

 

I presume irrespective of condition it will have to be brought up to good repair, which I assume is what this work might be or is it perhaps just them having a closer look at what's there.

 

Either way good news I suppose.

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I'm sure that one or two forum members will have David Cross's book on the Waverley Route.

 

On page 7 is the gradient profile. I've seem similar before marked the same way as this reproduction. Can anyone explain the significance of:

 

(i) the diamonds at Abbeyhill, Portobello Junction, Glenesk Junction, Gorebridge, Galashiels, Hawick, between Hawick and Stobs (this one also has a left pointing arrow), Riccarton and finally Canal Junction.

 

also

 

(ii) the small squares at St Margaret's tunnel, between Riccarton and Whitrope and again between Riccarton and Steele Road (both these have right pointing arrows) and finally Longtown.

 

Many thanks.

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