Wright writes.....

[stewartingram]

And Tony really looks happy there!

 

Stewart

[gooey_lewy]

Hi all

 

I have been sorting through a huge pile of photos that have been gifted to the locomotive society i'm involved with (34081 92 Squadron for those interested!) and found these that i thought you would like to see, they mostly appear to be from the BR and in some cases LNER photo archive and are labeled 'file copy'.

 

E3082, the only one without a caption on the back.

 

E1958, open 1st restaurant car,LNER Darlington stamp on back, dated 16 March 1948, file copy.

 

E1984, open 3rd restaurant car, BR CME drawing office Darlington stamp on back, dated 10 March 1949, file copy.

 

E1952, kitchen car corridor side, BR drawing office Doncaster on back, no date, file copy.

 

E1706, buffet lounge car, LNER Doncaster stamp on back, no date, file copy. This coach is interesting as the E of the number is a different BR style font to the rest.

 

E1257, 1st sleeping car compartment side, BR Doncaster stamp on back, file copy.

 

And just for fun:

46478 GNR steel well wagon built 1907, carrying 44 ton loco, LNER Doncaster stamp, no date, file copy.

 

There are loads more in the box of coaches and wagons, most appear to be works shots. if there is interest i'll post some of the more interesting ones?

 

Cheers

 

Lewis

 

[St Enodoc]

Dsc_7061.jpg

 

It's always huge fun when mates come round to operate LB. It's even more rewarding when some of them come from the other side of the World, in this case, Australia. 

 

I left this merry band of men to their own devices this afternoon (abstracting myself, of course) while I processed pictures and they ran trains. 

 

Thanks for a great day, chaps - from left to right - Mel, John (England), Andrew (from Australia), George (England), Peter and Gavin (from Australia). 

 

That's what real railway modelling is about to me - a group of good friends 'playing trains'. 

Hope you're getting some ideas for scenery there Andrew.

[jrg1]

A pity it 

 

Here's two pics of Wills rodding, out of the bag and with a simple black wash. Note no ballast applied yet, so far from complete, the ballast and ground texture will cover some of the base of the rodding as well as making the track 'sit' right.
IMG_0611.JPG
Before wash

IMG_0612.JPG
After wash.

My initial thoughts are it looks better than none, but too chunky, you couldn't mix manufacturers products without it looking odd, where you can mix and match the

A pity it looks overscale, as the detail is very good-perhaps it would be better used for 7mm? 

[micklner]

Hi all

 

I have been sorting through a huge pile of photos that have been gifted to the locomotive society i'm involved with (34081 92 Squadron for those interested!) and found these that i thought you would like to see, they mostly appear to be from the BR and in some cases LNER photo archive and are labeled 'file copy'.

 

E30821.png

E3082, the only one without a caption on the back.

 

19581.png

E1958, open 1st restaurant car,LNER Darlington stamp on back, dated 16 March 1948, file copy.

 

19841.png

E1984, open 3rd restaurant car, BR CME drawing office Darlington stamp on back, dated 10 March 1949, file copy.

 

E19521.png

E1952, kitchen car corridor side, BR drawing office Doncaster on back, no date, file copy.

 

E17061.png

E1706, buffet lounge car, LNER Doncaster stamp on back, no date, file copy. This coach is interesting as the E of the number is a different BR style font to the rest.

 

E12571.png

E1257, 1st sleeping car compartment side, BR Doncaster stamp on back, file copy.

 

And just for fun:

Stirling_Single1.png

46478 GNR steel well wagon built 1907, carrying 44 ton loco, LNER Doncaster stamp, no date, file copy.

 

There are loads more in the box of coaches and wagons, most appear to be works shots. if there is interest i'll post some of the more interesting ones?

 

Cheers

 

Lewis

 

Yes please , never seen Thompson Restaurant cars in LNER livery before !!. They actually deserve a separate thread, as much easier to find in the future IMHO.

Edited May 24, 2017 by micklner

[Mike 84C]

Was E3082 a one off? I have never seen any coach with that style of window.

[St Enodoc]

Was E3082 a one off? I have never seen any coach with that style of window.

One of the 1957 prototypes:

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/85027-it-was-a-sad-time/&do=findComment&comment=1427899

[gooey_lewy]

One of the 1957 prototypes:

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/85027-it-was-a-sad-time/&do=findComment&comment=1427899

Have a look at this:

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/19643-mk1-1957-prototypes/

[Barry Ten]

Perhaps it's a sign of the times with the reduced availability of Mashima motors, but I've noticed that a lot of the DJH motor/gearbox combinations aren't now available

for immediate order. I must admit I've got very used to counting on the ready availability of these assemblies as they take a lot of the struggle out of getting a chassis

assembled. The same seems to be the case with some of the wheelset packs.

 

It's already been noted, but the 00 locomotive range is shrinking fast as well - now down to just 3 classes in the Southern category, for instance (of which I've got two).

 

Alastair

[Tony Wright]

And Tony really looks happy there!

 

Stewart

I was, Stewart.

 

However, adopting crouching poses isn't as easy as it once was. 

 

What crossed my mind on looking at the picture was the ghastly contrast between seven chums all enjoying themselves yesterday (and harming nobody) and the hideous events in Manchester. Somehow laughing, joking and 'playing trains' seemed not right. 

[Fat Controller]

Hi all

 

I have been sorting through a huge pile of photos that have been gifted to the locomotive society i'm involved with (34081 92 Squadron for those interested!) and found these that i thought you would like to see, they mostly appear to be from the BR and in some cases LNER photo archive and are labeled 'file copy'.

 

E30821.png

E3082, the only one without a caption on the back.

 

19581.png

E1958, open 1st restaurant car,LNER Darlington stamp on back, dated 16 March 1948, file copy.

 

19841.png

E1984, open 3rd restaurant car, BR CME drawing office Darlington stamp on back, dated 10 March 1949, file copy.

 

E19521.png

E1952, kitchen car corridor side, BR drawing office Doncaster on back, no date, file copy.

 

E17061.png

E1706, buffet lounge car, LNER Doncaster stamp on back, no date, file copy. This coach is interesting as the E of the number is a different BR style font to the rest.

 

E12571.png

E1257, 1st sleeping car compartment side, BR Doncaster stamp on back, file copy.

 

And just for fun:

Stirling_Single1.png

46478 GNR steel well wagon built 1907, carrying 44 ton loco, LNER Doncaster stamp, no date, file copy.

 

There are loads more in the box of coaches and wagons, most appear to be works shots. if there is interest i'll post some of the more interesting ones?

 

Cheers

 

Lewis

It would be very nice if the photos, and hopefully others, were to be posted in a separate thread to avoid them to remain visible. Whilst I don't model the LNER, I find such views inherently interesting. Regarding the vehicle with the 'E' prefix in a different script; this is because the 'E' is in the BR standard font, smaller and less elaborate than the LNER one.

[thegreenhowards]

Hi all

 

I have been sorting through a huge pile of photos that have been gifted to the locomotive society i'm involved with (34081 92 Squadron for those interested!) and found these that i thought you would like to see, they mostly appear to be from the BR and in some cases LNER photo archive and are labeled 'file copy'.

 

E30821.png

E3082, the only one without a caption on the back.

 

19581.png

E1958, open 1st restaurant car,LNER Darlington stamp on back, dated 16 March 1948, file copy.

 

19841.png

E1984, open 3rd restaurant car, BR CME drawing office Darlington stamp on back, dated 10 March 1949, file copy.

 

E19521.png

E1952, kitchen car corridor side, BR drawing office Doncaster on back, no date, file copy.

 

E17061.png

E1706, buffet lounge car, LNER Doncaster stamp on back, no date, file copy. This coach is interesting as the E of the number is a different BR style font to the rest.

 

E12571.png

E1257, 1st sleeping car compartment side, BR Doncaster stamp on back, file copy.

 

And just for fun:

Stirling_Single1.png

46478 GNR steel well wagon built 1907, carrying 44 ton loco, LNER Doncaster stamp, no date, file copy.

 

There are loads more in the box of coaches and wagons, most appear to be works shots. if there is interest i'll post some of the more interesting ones?

 

Cheers

 

Lewis

They're great photos. I particularly love the sleeper first as I've never seen a photo of the berth side of one of these before. It's a coach I'd love to build a model of, but there seems to be no side etches available, so rather difficult!

 

Please post more - perhaps on a separate thread as others have said.

[mullie]

Hi all

 

I have been sorting through a huge pile of photos that have been gifted to the locomotive society i'm involved with (34081 92 Squadron for those interested!) and found these that i thought you would like to see, they mostly appear to be from the BR and in some cases LNER photo archive and are labeled 'file copy'.

 

E30821.png

E3082, the only one without a caption on the back.

 

19581.png

E1958, open 1st restaurant car,LNER Darlington stamp on back, dated 16 March 1948, file copy.

 

19841.png

E1984, open 3rd restaurant car, BR CME drawing office Darlington stamp on back, dated 10 March 1949, file copy.

 

E19521.png

E1952, kitchen car corridor side, BR drawing office Doncaster on back, no date, file copy.

 

E17061.png

E1706, buffet lounge car, LNER Doncaster stamp on back, no date, file copy. This coach is interesting as the E of the number is a different BR style font to the rest.

 

E12571.png

E1257, 1st sleeping car compartment side, BR Doncaster stamp on back, file copy.

 

And just for fun:

Stirling_Single1.png

46478 GNR steel well wagon built 1907, carrying 44 ton loco, LNER Doncaster stamp, no date, file copy.

 

There are loads more in the box of coaches and wagons, most appear to be works shots. if there is interest i'll post some of the more interesting ones?

 

Cheers

 

Lewis

If you do set up a separate thread please let us know where.

[Tony Wright]

Hi all

 

I have been sorting through a huge pile of photos that have been gifted to the locomotive society i'm involved with (34081 92 Squadron for those interested!) and found these that i thought you would like to see, they mostly appear to be from the BR and in some cases LNER photo archive and are labeled 'file copy'.

 

E30821.png

E3082, the only one without a caption on the back.

 

19581.png

E1958, open 1st restaurant car,LNER Darlington stamp on back, dated 16 March 1948, file copy.

 

19841.png

E1984, open 3rd restaurant car, BR CME drawing office Darlington stamp on back, dated 10 March 1949, file copy.

 

E19521.png

E1952, kitchen car corridor side, BR drawing office Doncaster on back, no date, file copy.

 

E17061.png

E1706, buffet lounge car, LNER Doncaster stamp on back, no date, file copy. This coach is interesting as the E of the number is a different BR style font to the rest.

 

E12571.png

E1257, 1st sleeping car compartment side, BR Doncaster stamp on back, file copy.

 

And just for fun:

Stirling_Single1.png

46478 GNR steel well wagon built 1907, carrying 44 ton loco, LNER Doncaster stamp, no date, file copy.

 

There are loads more in the box of coaches and wagons, most appear to be works shots. if there is interest i'll post some of the more interesting ones?

 

Cheers

 

Lewis

Thanks Lewis,

 

If, as others have suggested, you set up a separate thread, please duplicate some of the images here. Above all else, Wright Writes is a model-maker's thread and such images are priceless for building carriages. 

[Grovenor]

A pity it looks overscale, as the detail is very good-perhaps it would be better used for 7mm?

Unfortunalely, whilst this rodding is almost double scale width it is correct to scale for length, so would need a lot of corrective action in 7mm as well.

The effect in 4mm gets progressively worse as the number of parallel rods increases.

Regards

[Woodcock29]

Hope you're getting some ideas for scenery there Andrew.

You'll just have to wait and see John - and certainly don't expect anything by the August meeting! I think I might be required to do some non-railway things when I get back next Monday after 6 weeks away!

 

Andrew

[Tony Wright]

You'll just have to wait and see John - and certainly don't expect anything by the August meeting! I think I might be required to do some non-railway things when I get back next Monday after 6 weeks away!

 

Andrew

I think there was more interest in some of the locomotives than the scenery, Andrew.

 

I found our discussions most interesting when I put some of my 'museum-pieces' on for you and the others to comment on. Normally, most of these are never used now, having been superseded by far superior builds. However, though I'm not sentimental about anything I've ever made (having sold many of my earlier locos/carriages), I do keep the following, if only to stimulate comments when visitors call. If they do have any 'merit' (which is debatable), they are all my own work in every department. 

 

 

This has appeared before, though it does fit in with the others, at least for its being over 40 years old. I ordered this Jamieson hand-cut kit for an A2/1 from EAMES of Reading in 1976, for the princely sum of £26.50. I originally built a Wills tender for it (rather wrong), but some years later built a SE Finecast A2 tender, which is more appropriate. I also ordered the nameplates as a bespoke item from Kings Cross Models at the same time as the kit (I think they cost three quid!), hence their (probably incorrect) red background. This one still tends to get used, if only because I don't have a more up-to-date A2/1, other than a Nu-Cast one which I finished as 60510 (on a running-in turn). It still has its originally Jepson five-pole motor, and still goes like stink! 

 

 

Another pair of early-'70s antiquities in the form of a K's O4 (only above the chassis) and a Wills A2. The former now has a more modern motor/gearbox than the previous ghastly K's Mk.1, and runs beautifully. Though less-detailed than the current RTR one, I sold the Bachmann one I had because the none-see-through centre section of the footplate was more intolerable than the deficiencies in my antique one. Would you believe the A2 sits on a Tri-ang Britannia chassis? It even has its original motor, though I substituted Romford/Jackson wheels. I also built a DJH A1 tender for it some years later. If nothing else, it proves to me the folly of reading instructions and consulting dud drawings; look where I've soldered on the steam generator! 

 

 

Another loco from the days when a five-pole XO4 lookalike was the Rolls-Royce motive power, in the form of this Nu-Cast O2/3. It came with a cast-metal block for a chassis which I consider only has use as a weapon or as ballast. I scratch-built an alternative from brass. I know you've made one of these work fine, so my hat's off to you. I couldn't. It tows a Jamieson B1/V2 tender. 

 

 

A Nu-Cast B16/3 (complete with warped footplate) passes a Jamieson B1. The former has a scratch-built chassis and Hamblings driving wheels (which clatter over C&L pointwork), and, like the B1, an MW005 motor and Romford gears. You're dead right about the B1's chimney being a bit of a dud, but it is of its time. The tender isn't right, either. It shouldn't have a large cut-out at the front, and it should also have beading. 

 

 

Yet another oldie, in the form of a Wills A3 on a scratch-built chassis. At the time (when I was in my late-'20s/early-'30s - and the average age for Wolverhampton MRC membership - I still am!!!), things like filed-down bullhead rail were considered good enough for coupling rods and I was happy with chunky wheels. They look a bit incongruous now. That said, this will 'blow away' any RTR equivalent in terms of smooth riding and haulage capacity, and has done for 40 years. So, as a layout loco, will this do? It's all my own work and doesn't originate from some far-distant factory. I agree, the more recent DJH A3s I ran are much better in terms of appearance. 

 

Thank you for your 'critical' comments. I value them immensely, as all model-makers should. 

 

All of you have a safe journey home, and many thanks for visiting. 

 

Does anyone else have some golden oldies to show us, please?

Edited May 25, 2017 by Tony Wright

[Enterprisingwestern]

I like the "museum pieces", long may they roll. It's good to be reminded where we once were, warts and all, rather as I enjoy the Jamieson/Sayer Chaplin etc threads on RMweb, although having no real modelling interest in steam, it's good to see some history in the hobby.

 

Mike.

[coachmann]

Does anyone else have some golden oldies to show us, please?

 

Like many a railway enthusiast, I abandoned BR when it went rubbish in the early 1960's and turned to buses and trams instead. So my only surviving golden oldie that runs on rails is this Oldham Corporation tram. I built it in 1969 using a BEC or Anbrico whitemetal kit as the basis while the upper deck was scratchbuilt. It is soldered, which is probably why is it lasted the course, although it has lost a variety of fittings over the years. The motor appears to be a K's double ender.  No.76 is show displaying route 20 which operated between Waterhead and Hollinwood. 

Edited May 25, 2017 by coachmann

[DougN]

Some of those older builds may be historic for you, Tony. They are still interesting and capture your journey through life. Some times as builders we can keep what we have built some times we pass them on for other challenges. I have not made that much that I have passed. One thing I did do was build a LNER Garrett. The funny thing was years later I was at an exhibition and the owner came and said to me he had a great LNER garrett that he had built.... at he time I had to bite my tongue... but looking back at it now I can see the funny side.

 

Any how. I have just received a copy of LNER carriages by Michael Harris... I must admit it is a great resource for modellers of LNER carriages. I knew a reasonable amount about what I was building. This book however, which was all of 30AUD delivered to my door, is full of so much valuable and useful information. I would recommend this as a good starting point for anyone looking to build carriage models. One thing it has confirmed my thoughts as correct to build a quad art set, starting from an Ian Kirk kit which I have had for years but can't for the life of me remember buying!

 

As with everything in middle age... spare modelling time is of short supply in between work, family 2 kids,1 dog, and normal day to day activities.. I have set my target to have the set completed before Oxford rail's N7 is released! I have managed to get the bodies painted, transferred and assembled, the roofs have had their vents (MJT whitemetal vents which you need 2 packs to complete!) installed. The bogies are the plastic from the kit with Hornby wheels (1full pack as there is 5 bogies!) which are very weighty! I am waiting for a delivery of MJT turnbuckle underframes 4x 51ft etched brass U/F's... I will say this a quad art is quite expensive once you start building one... but it is quite a beast. So once I manage to complete the carriage set it is practically a single train in its self. So I think this will be finished well before the N7 turns up.. so before hand I hope a J15 or a D16 will not look out of place.

 

I am actually surprised how much I am enjoying building these carriages, it is not my main interest in NER in P4 which I am trying to slowly build up. So I would say the modelling mojo can be found in sometimes doing a project that is just for enjoyment of building!

[Tony Wright]

Some of those older builds may be historic for you, Tony. They are still interesting and capture your journey through life. Some times as builders we can keep what we have built some times we pass them on for other challenges. I have not made that much that I have passed. One thing I did do was build a LNER Garrett. The funny thing was years later I was at an exhibition and the owner came and said to me he had a great LNER garrett that he had built.... at he time I had to bite my tongue... but looking back at it now I can see the funny side.

 

Any how. I have just received a copy of LNER carriages by Michael Harris... I must admit it is a great resource for modellers of LNER carriages. I knew a reasonable amount about what I was building. This book however, which was all of 30AUD delivered to my door, is full of so much valuable and useful information. I would recommend this as a good starting point for anyone looking to build carriage models. One thing it has confirmed my thoughts as correct to build a quad art set, starting from an Ian Kirk kit which I have had for years but can't for the life of me remember buying!

 

As with everything in middle age... spare modelling time is of short supply in between work, family 2 kids,1 dog, and normal day to day activities.. I have set my target to have the set completed before Oxford rail's N7 is released! I have managed to get the bodies painted, transferred and assembled, the roofs have had their vents (MJT whitemetal vents which you need 2 packs to complete!) installed. The bogies are the plastic from the kit with Hornby wheels (1full pack as there is 5 bogies!) which are very weighty! I am waiting for a delivery of MJT turnbuckle underframes 4x 51ft etched brass U/F's... I will say this a quad art is quite expensive once you start building one... but it is quite a beast. So once I manage to complete the carriage set it is practically a single train in its self. So I think this will be finished well before the N7 turns up.. so before hand I hope a J15 or a D16 will not look out of place.

 

I am actually surprised how much I am enjoying building these carriages, it is not my main interest in NER in P4 which I am trying to slowly build up. So I would say the modelling mojo can be found in sometimes doing a project that is just for enjoyment of building!

Thanks Doug.

 

Why should you have to bite your tongue when someone, effectively, tells a lie?

 

I'd have exposed the charlatan, at the top of my voice. I've seen too many instances in this hobby where folk take credit for the work of others; if not by actually lying about it, but by omission. That's why (even to the point of repetition) I always insist that those who've contributed to my layout are mentioned.  

Edited May 25, 2017 by Tony Wright

[46256]

I believe it was an Iain Rice article where he stated that rather than make a model we can create a " portrait" of it. The older models seem to bear that out...having a certain presence which I find appealing.

[Tony Wright]

I believe it was an Iain Rice article where he stated that rather than make a model we can create a " portrait" of it. The older models seem to bear that out...having a certain presence which I find appealing.

Many thanks,

 

An 'impressionist' portrait is what I try to achieve.

[mullie]

I think the older models, despite perhaps lacking the finer detail of modern products have a presence which is really pleasing, it could also be because they have been built. Can't ratify it, they just do in my opinion.

[96701]

I was, Stewart.

 

However, adopting crouching poses isn't as easy as it once was. 

 

What crossed my mind on looking at the picture was the ghastly contrast between seven chums all enjoying themselves yesterday (and harming nobody) and the hideous events in Manchester. Somehow laughing, joking and 'playing trains' seemed not right. 

It is absolutely right, Tony. Do not let hatred (from whatever colour, class or religion) remove our freedoms which includes enjoyment.