Wright writes.....

[Leander]

On 13/01/2023 at 21:14, cctransuk said:

 

Dynamometer car?

 

CJI.

 

It looks to be the L&YR dynamometer car now preserved in LMS livery. It may be seen inside the Princess Royal Class Locomotives Trust’s West Shed at the Midland Railway Centre, Swanwick Junction in Derbyshire. 

 

Edited January 15, 2023 by Leander
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[46444]

Good Evening Tony.

 

I am enjoying this sequence of photos from layouts you have snapped to your son's Lima detailing exploits. 

 

Currently I have a Bachmann Thompson full brake on my workbench which I picked up for a good price. I realise the limitations of this velnerable model but thought I would have a go at detailing it.

 

Armed with a selection of MJT and Comet parts I am about to start the deed.

 

Being a bit of an LNER coach luddite can I ask why there are left handed and right handed buffers on coaching stock? 

 

My other question if I may concerns connecting bellows end doors. I have decided to replace the rubber moulded factory fitted bellows on the Bachmann model with Comet versions. These come with no doors.

 

Can I ask what do you use to make the end connecting bellow doors? 

 

Regards,

 

Mark 

 

PS: Have you any pictures of A2's at speed through Little Bytham? 

 

 

[Kier Hardy]

Here's one of the rakes at Hornsey Broadway made up of Bachmann mark 1s in various liveries, representing a prototypical C1970s scene @ 5m 44 seconds into this 7 minute video. 

 

All the best.

 

 

[APOLLO]

 Interesting early Freightliner photos.

 

 

Dynamometer car again ?

 

 

Mid train Stanier coach ? Does not seem to be a full brake.

 

 

Brit15

[robertcwp]

1 hour ago, LNER4479 said:

Some pix of the transition era phase of the rolling sequence on Shap:

 

Last summer of steam-hauled SO relief trains. [A York]

 

Filthy, nameless Britannia-hauled, banked freight meets new Freightliner service. [A York]

 

Blue / green lightweight DMU passes maroon / blue-grey express at the summit (the latter normally hauled by an ex-Stoke Summit Brush 4) [TW]

 

1967 railtour with preserved steam loco. [TW]

 

D400 and the all blue-grey set, just squeezing into the 1967 timeframe (routine double heading didn't start till 1971?). Headcode since corrected! [A York]

 

Not my personal favourite phase of the sequence BUT I acknowledge that it does create great interest so perfectly happy to include such trains on that basis. We usually cycle around in about 45 mins (providing the gremlins keep at bay) so you shouldn't have to wait too long to see such scenes at a show. Next outing is York at Easter.

 

It's a period I like to see modelled.

 

D400 was the only 50 to have the MU jumpers from new. D401 seems to have had sockets only, presumably so the two could be tested together. Jumpers were fitted to the remainder in preparation for the start of double-heading in 1970.

 

I have been thinking about whether my Freightliner set should have a brake vehicle of some description. Currently, it does not.

 

One small suggestion is to have an air-braked 47 on the Freightliners. 

[Northmoor]

38 minutes ago, APOLLO said:

 Interesting early Freightliner photos.

 

 

Dynamometer car again ?

 

That looks like a very ropy old Mk1 Suburban Brake Second.  The guard must have really upset someone.

[St Enodoc]

13 hours ago, Steven B said:

Mr Thompson did a much better job

Careful...

[Barry O]

13 hours ago, robertcwp said:

Livery crossover eras are often not modelled, or so it seems from exhibition layouts. There are exceptions though.

 

I remember commenting to John Houlden that Gamston Bank (set in 1954) needed some LNER-liveried stock as there were still some around then - some teak or mock teak carriages made it all the way through the crimson and cream era without gaining the livery. 

 

Stoke Summit was good in that it depicted the crimson and cream to maroon transition, as does Retford. There are other examples too. The early BR years are a good period for mixed liveries, including the 1948 experimental ones.

 

DMUs were not always uniform:

DLW_4-10-67 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr

 

53434_53507_N677_ManVic_29-10-88 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr

 

Neither were Blue Pullmans:

Blue-Pull_down_Moreton_1-8-68 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr  

There is a green/BR Blue Derby l8gtweiggt on Shap. Not many people even notice it.. or the Blue GreyStanier stock.. disgruntled Baz.

 

[uax6]

16 hours ago, Keith Turbutt said:

Some photos of my visit to the NW, August bank holiday 1967 showing Blue Grey stock.

 

We learned that the Belfast Boat Express was still rostered for steam. Here it is awaiting departure from Manchester. I was lucky enough to have a cab ride from Manchester to Bolton.

The train appears to be all blue grey.

 

 

 

That first vehicle behind the tender looks to be one of the Porthole brake thirds....

 

Nice!

Andy G

[rodent279]

Wasn't some of the late LMS designed stock all welded?

[uax6]

1 hour ago, rodent279 said:

Wasn't some of the late LMS designed stock all welded?

 

Yes I believe so.

 

Andy G

[Jesse Sim]

20 hours ago, Woodcock29 said:

That would be most appreciated thanks Tony.

 

You're correct it won't cost much to send them from Sydney to Adelaide.

Andrew

Isn’t this technically trafficking? 

[Tony Teague]

On 11/01/2023 at 21:55, Tony Wright said:

Dear friend, Tony Teague came over today...............

 

Bringing with him..........

 

 

 

 

This exquisite little C14, built for him by Mike Edge (I assume Mike painted it, but I could be wrong).

 

It ran superbly.

 

He also brought this West Country.............

 

 

 

Built/painted from a PDK kit (can't remember the chaps name; perhaps Tony will tell us). 

 

It also ran superbly.

 

What was interesting was that both Tony and I took pictures of these models from much the same positions. These are mine, taken as 'one-shot'. Tony's remarkable camera automatically takes loads of images, at different focussing lengths; the images are then stacked in a photo programme to increase depth of field (my camera's lenses stop to F.45, so I don't need that facility, and I wouldn't know how to work it, anyway!). 

 

Tony tells me he'll put his pictures on Wright writes. It'll be fascinating to compare...................

 

Morning Tony

Although it is only 3 days since my visit to LB, some 5 pages have been added to Wright Writes and so one has to look back that far to make any picture comparison  - and as I predicted at that time, your images are far superior! (grovels....)

 

 

Nevertheless here are a couple - my only excuse for background 'fuzziness' is that one setting on my camera seems to have changed itself such that only 8 images were available for 'focus stacking', whereas I would normally have taken between 30 and 90; I have no idea why this happened but it I must have inadvertantly pressed a button - pure incompetence!

 

 

The second image of No.3744 on the goods dock is a single shot, not stacked.

 

Thanks again for a most enjoyable visit!

 

Tony

 

[St Enodoc]

55 minutes ago, Jesse Sim said:

Isn’t this technically trafficking? 

Yes. Bring back some Railmatch paint too, to make it worthwhile...

[Tony Wright]

12 hours ago, 46444 said:

Good Evening Tony.

 

I am enjoying this sequence of photos from layouts you have snapped to your son's Lima detailing exploits. 

 

Currently I have a Bachmann Thompson full brake on my workbench which I picked up for a good price. I realise the limitations of this velnerable model but thought I would have a go at detailing it.

 

Armed with a selection of MJT and Comet parts I am about to start the deed.

 

Being a bit of an LNER coach luddite can I ask why there are left handed and right handed buffers on coaching stock? 

 

My other question if I may concerns connecting bellows end doors. I have decided to replace the rubber moulded factory fitted bellows on the Bachmann model with Comet versions. These come with no doors.

 

Can I ask what do you use to make the end connecting bellow doors? 

 

Regards,

 

Mark 

 

PS: Have you any pictures of A2's at speed through Little Bytham? 

 

 

Good morning Mark,

 

I don't know about left-hand and right-hand buffers on LNER stock. 

 

I've got three of the old Bachmann Thompson BGs (none in original condition).

 

 

The principal modification is to alter the roof profile by taking off the sharp angle just above the cantrail. Additions of footboards help as well.

 

The end board is by MJT, stuck on to the original gangway. Comet produces cast/etched Thompson gangways.

 

This carriage now runs on Retford, having been re-gauged to EM.

 

 

Elder son Tom took one a stage further by heavily-weathering his. 

 

 

 

 

I used one as a donor, sticking Southern Pride etched sides to it.

 

I have a couple of other Thompson BGs.............

 

 

This one - a Lawrence/Goddard example, built from (probably) a BSL kit.

 

 

And a Comet one, given to me by a friend (builder/painter unknown).

 

The LNER produced some lovely parcels stock.

 

Including the likes of............

 

 

The standard Gresley BG. I built this by using a Hornby donor (one with turnbuckle trussing) and MJT sides, choosing an example which wasn't lined. 

 

 

My flexible corridor connectors come from Modellers Mecca.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

 

 

 

[Tony Wright]

25 minutes ago, Tony Teague said:

 

Morning Tony

Although it is only 3 days since my visit to LB, some 5 pages have been added to Wright Writes and so one has to look back that far to make any picture comparison  - and as I predicted at that time, your images are far superior! (grovels....)

 

 

Nevertheless here are a couple - my only excuse for background 'fuzziness' is that one setting on my camera seems to have changed itself such that only 8 images were available for 'focus stacking', whereas I would normally have taken between 30 and 90; I have no idea why this happened but it I must have inadvertantly pressed a button - pure incompetence!

 

 

The second image of No.3744 on the goods dock is a single shot, not stacked.

 

Thanks again for a most enjoyable visit!

 

Tony

 

Good morning Tony,

 

Apart from my taking out of the background on the shot of the WC, I can't see any difference. 

 

Which, to me, rather illustrates my point regarding 'stacking'; that is, with suitable lenses (the F. stop for my picture was F.36), it's simply not needed.

 

And, thanks for visiting (as always). Yesterday, I posted off a cheque to CRUK for over £350.00, which included your most-generous donation. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

[Tony Wright]

13 hours ago, 46444 said:

Good Evening Tony.

 

I am enjoying this sequence of photos from layouts you have snapped to your son's Lima detailing exploits. 

 

Currently I have a Bachmann Thompson full brake on my workbench which I picked up for a good price. I realise the limitations of this velnerable model but thought I would have a go at detailing it.

 

Armed with a selection of MJT and Comet parts I am about to start the deed.

 

Being a bit of an LNER coach luddite can I ask why there are left handed and right handed buffers on coaching stock? 

 

My other question if I may concerns connecting bellows end doors. I have decided to replace the rubber moulded factory fitted bellows on the Bachmann model with Comet versions. These come with no doors.

 

Can I ask what do you use to make the end connecting bellow doors? 

 

Regards,

 

Mark 

 

PS: Have you any pictures of A2's at speed through Little Bytham? 

 

 

Good morning again Mark,

 

A2s at Little Bytham.

 

These do?

 

 

My 'prehistoric' Wills A2, BLUE PETER, alongside a Bachmann example I was detailing/altering/re-numbering/re-naming into VELOCITY.

 

 

 

Which Tom Foster weathered to perfection.

 

 

 

HAPPY KNIGHT, built from a Crownline kit and painted by Ian Rathbone. Rob Kinsey started this and I completed it. 

 

 

 

BRONZINO; I built this from a DJH kit, and it was featured in Wright Tracks 1 & 2 DVDs. Ian Rathbone painted it. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

 

[Tony Wright]

13 hours ago, APOLLO said:

 Interesting early Freightliner photos.

 

 

Dynamometer car again ?

 

 

Mid train Stanier coach ? Does not seem to be a full brake.

 

 

Brit15

Great shot of the Brush Type 4 at Chester.

 

The photographer must have been up a signal post or on the roof of the DMU depot. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

[t-b-g]

Many LNER carriage buffers were right and left handed, especially on corridor stock. Maybe it was all like that but as I haven't seen every carriage, I won't commit myself!

 

The prototype buffers had the small attachment for fixing the buffers in an extended or retracted position attached to the outside (nearest the side of the carriage) for easier access. So each carriage had a LH and a RH buffer at any one end.

 

It was basically a small collar attached to the buffer housing with a chain.

 

This photo shows it:

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rpmarks/34502225390/in/photolist-UyQVz1-2kUrgYn-yE5Cjf-zjvSnb-B9MF11-CSjLz3-BEaHHd-EvPnE6-pRsvT9-BGzJBY-BWGJau-B65ZJ3-C1EJvT-BZ89pw-2kwtasJ-Bu5Gg4-2n2xJ7e-2mazw1j-2nKQHgy-XMUcE5-2nKUj7p-BZ1mTx-26kYPNB-2mgbmFV-2nDFu4o-2nueDHK-2mQe2DC-2nJV27X-2nDRw1G-2nEATPd-2mWZj6m-2kwGV84-2iy1CR6-2hAr6wr-CMK59e-28nhPGh-2misG5o-2nMRC4B-2iyqqyv-2n34pUP-GUTgur-2k8L1S3-2n6g9dG-2nJ844K-2iDeUxv-2nwGKbR-2mL8E67-2jHbYeC-2iAyyB1-27XfQFC

 

Edited January 14, 2023 by t-b-g

[robertcwp]

6 hours ago, Barry O said:

There is a green/BR Blue Derby l8gtweiggt on Shap. Not many people even notice it.. or the Blue GreyStanier stock.. disgruntled Baz.

 

I would notice both if I saw them. I certainly recall the blue/grey porthole, which I think was done before Bachmann released their models. I'm disappointed that Bachmann did not do the composite as well.

 

I run mixed livery DMUs on my layout. This image is from six years ago, before I had my DMU mass dirtying-up:

 

P1070894am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr

[46444]

40 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

Good morning Mark,

 

I don't know about left-hand and right-hand buffers on LNER stock. 

 

I've got three of the old Bachmann Thompson BGs (none in original condition).

 

 

The principal modification is to alter the roof profile by taking off the sharp angle just above the cantrail. Additions of footboards help as well.

 

The end board is by MJT, stuck on to the original gangway. Comet produces cast/etched Thompson gangways.

 

This carriage now runs on Retford, having been re-gauged to EM.

 

 

Elder son Tom took one a stage further by heavily-weathering his. 

 

 

 

 

I used one as a donor, sticking Southern Pride etched sides to it.

 

I have a couple of other Thompson BGs.............

 

 

This one - a Lawrence/Goddard example, built from (probably) a BSL kit.

 

 

And a Comet one, given to me by a friend (builder/painter unknown).

 

The LNER produced some lovely parcels stock.

 

Including the likes of............

 

 

The standard Gresley BG. I built this by using a Hornby donor (one with turnbuckle trussing) and MJT sides, choosing an example which wasn't lined. 

 

 

My flexible corridor connectors come from Modellers Mecca.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

 

 

 

 

Brilliant Tony. 

 

Thankyou for the reply and accompanying photographs. Much appreciated and will help no end with my project. 

 

I asked about left and right hand LNER buffers as the Comet pack is split into two packs of six. One left and one right. I had never heard of this before.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark 

 

(t-b-g has answered my query above. Thankyou)

Edited January 14, 2023 by 46444
Question answered...

[billbedford]

13 hours ago, 46444 said:

Being a bit of an LNER coach luddite can I ask why there are left handed and right handed buffers on coaching stock? 

 

The holding bolts were 5 7/8" from the buffer centre on the outside and and 7 3/8" on the inside. 

[thegreenhowards]

12 hours ago, Kier Hardy said:

Here's one of the rakes at Hornsey Broadway made up of Bachmann mark 1s in various liveries, representing a prototypical C1970s scene @ 5m 44 seconds into this 7 minute video. 

 

All the best.

Kier,

 

That video is awe inspiring! I’m particularly impressed with the sound which really brings it to life. I’m guessing that this is dubbed on as the sound of the coaching stock passing and clickety clack of the rail joints is sadly missing from DCC sound. Is that correct?

 

Also, where did you get the recoding of the BTH type 1s from? It sounds like an HST, which is plausible given the Valenta engine.

 

Regards

 

Andy

 

 

 

 

[APOLLO]

1 hour ago, billbedford said:

The holding bolts were 5 7/8" from the buffer centre on the outside and and 7 3/8" on the inside. 

 Gawd, this is worse than counting rivets !!!!!!

 

(Just joking)

 

Brit15

[46444]

28 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

Good morning again Mark,

 

A2s at Little Bytham.

 

These do?

 

 

My 'prehistoric' Wills A2, BLUE PETER, alongside a Bachmann example I was detailing/altering/re-numbering/re-naming into VELOCITY.

 

 

 

Which Tom Foster weathered to perfection.

 

 

 

HAPPY KNIGHT, built from a Crownline kit and painted by Ian Rathbone. Rob Kinsey started this and I completed it. 

 

 

 

BRONZINO; I built this from a DJH kit, and it was featured in Wright Tracks 1 & 2 DVDs. Ian Rathbone painted it. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

 

 

Good Afternoon Tony,

 

Thankyou once again.

 

That certainly brightens up a damp overcast day in the East Riding.  The A2's are aesthetically pleasing in my eyes. 

 

I'm not sure how many were allocated south of the Border in the 1950's?  I understand they eventually headed north and had relatively short working lives.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark