stock_2007 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Hi I hope this is in the right place and has not been asked before, but I've just picked up a C class in SECR livery really nice loco. I wondered if anyone made a brake van RTR or a kit from around the time it ran in this livery. I've found a CAMBRIAN 'Dance Hall' van but I think it was built after the re-grouping. As always any help is very welcome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn-on-the-platform Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 From Cambrian's page: 'Built from 1923-26. The right-hand picture shows a preserved van at Sheffield Park on the Bluebell Railway. The kit could be modified to represent the earlier 1921-built vans of D1559 There are extra parts to allow the Departmental "Ballast Brake Van" conversion of 10 vans in 1953 to be built (with ONE verandah boxed in). Several of these vans were air-piped and survived until the 1990s. The last survivors were ZPO DS55466, ZXW DS55476 (BBV), ZXV DS55493 (BBV), ZTO DS55509, ZTO DS55512 ' So yes, just about acceptable? I'm building one at the moment and so far its come together very nicely, considering how little experience I have! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 The 'Dance Halls' date from 1921, except for the prototype which came out in 1918, so they aren't really contemporary with the pre-war SECR livery on the Bachmann C class. They'd have been painted grey by then D&S did one of the earlier 6 wheeled vans, until their 4mm range vanished. There's a LC&DR brake van from Roxey mouldings that would have been in use in the right time period - I've never built one as they are out of my time period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 For all of the reasons above, I'm in the process of building the Roxey kit. I have started on the brake gear now, so not much more to do before adding couplings and painting it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stock_2007 Posted December 16, 2012 Author Share Posted December 16, 2012 For all of the reasons above, I'm in the process of building the Roxey kit. I have started on the brake gear now, so not much more to do before adding couplings and painting it. I think once I have a some little things out the way ie track etc I'll pick one up. Any chance of a photo please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC&DR Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I am contemplating scratch building one of the 6 wheel SER brake vans illustrated in Southern Wagons part 3. Not sure how to do the 6 wheels yet, but the bodywork looks reasonanbly straightforward. Then I will need some local coal trader coal wagons to go between. If I succeed I'll let you know how I get on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I am contemplating scratch building one of the 6 wheel SER brake vans illustrated in Southern Wagons part 3. Not sure how to do the 6 wheels yet, but the bodywork looks reasonanbly straightforward. Then I will need some local coal trader coal wagons to go between. If I succeed I'll let you know how I get on. Comet do a simple 6 wheeled etched W iron kit, looks very easy to use Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Pics of the Roxey LCDR van under construction. I have started on the brake gear since taking the photos but it still has a little way to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brake Compo Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 If the idea is just to have a train to match the loco, rather than the SECR pre WW1, you could do a Bluebell train - 592 is the preserved engine and the Bluebell has two Dance Hall/Dreadnaught brakes in SECR livery (despite the fact that at least one of them was SR built). Both have been used in demo freights with the C Class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruciethefish Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 The SECR also had a fleet of brakevans virtually identical to the Midland design as produced by Slater's, except they had a full-length roof,- i.e. covered balconies both ends. These came in both 4 & 6-wheel varieties.. I'm having a bash at converting the Parkside-Dundas MR-design LMS van into the 6-wheel variety... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbishop Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 The SECR also had a fleet of brakevans virtually identical to the Midland design as produced by Slater's, except they had a full-length roof,- i.e. covered balconies both ends. These came in both 4 & 6-wheel varieties.. I'm having a bash at converting the Parkside-Dundas MR-design LMS van into the 6-wheel variety... The first batch of SECR vans (1898) had only one veranda, similar to the MR version. The second batch, of course, had two verandas and their precursors had the second veranda provided between 1904-10, with slight differences between them. As it happens, there is a Slaters 7mm version on my workbench and I'm about to decide which version to build. Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stock_2007 Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 The SECR also had a fleet of brakevans virtually identical to the Midland design as produced by Slater's, except they had a full-length roof,- i.e. covered balconies both ends. These came in both 4 & 6-wheel varieties.. I'm having a bash at converting the Parkside-Dundas MR-design LMS van into the 6-wheel variety.. Hi I was able to pick up the right Parkside kit to try your kit-bash, but I've been thinking about the 6-wheel underframe or where to find one? As luck would have it I've just read about David Tisdale's project in the RAILWAY MODELLER where he kit-bash's a GWR 6-wheel Toad. I'm going to try and fit a middle axle to the parkside kit. Ok it may not be 100% SECR but it'll do me till I can find something better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 London Road Models list a SECR Dancehall Brake Van http://www.scalefour.org/LondonRoadModels/various/wagons/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stock_2007 Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 London Road Models list a SECR Dancehall Brake Van http://www.scalefour.org/LondonRoadModels/various/wagons/ Hi think you for the link I've already looked at the Dancehall van as Cambrian do a really nice one. However I've made up my mind to move the L/out into the early 1930's anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC&DR Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I managed to finish my SECR 6 wheeler. Unfortunately I haven't worked out how to embed an image here so I'll post a picture in the gallery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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