RMweb Premium Welchester Posted July 25, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2013 This is really in response to Buffalo's comment on the locked topic. Not sure about the Gloucester one, though, it doesn't appear in any lists I've seen. I wonder what Hornby's basis is then? Presumably the OYD after Gloucester is "Old Yard"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 41886, an M1 diagram, was at Gloucester Old Yard in 1944. Hornby's model is not an M1 though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Quite so, I misread the number in the photo referred to in the first post of that topic, so I was looking for 41836 Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welchester Posted July 25, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2013 I see. Thank you Miss P and Buffalo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account 2 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 https://railsofsheffield.com/gwr-shunters-trucks-JJJGP497.aspx They look nice to me... will surely get one for the showcase Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Model Store Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 MRS just placed the BR Reading wagons on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330968664281&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2013 MRS just placed the BR Reading wagons on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330968664281&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT That looks like the original Hornby catalogue illustration so it might not, hopefully, confirm what colour it is (but if it is grey it is wrong; all the Reading ones were very definitely black) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 My Acton version just arrived from Hatton's. Although I've not taken it out of the box yet, it looks good to me. The brake levers appear to be separate mouldings, so shouldn't be much effort a] to move them to 'off,' and b] for Hornby to ensure future versions have them set to 'off' in the factory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danemouth Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 In Lord & Butler in Cardiff this morning as they took delivery of the BR version. They are weathering them if required - I've asked for mine to be really grotty; should be ready at the beginning of next week. Regards, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2013 In Lord & Butler in Cardiff this morning as they took delivery of the BR version. They are weathering them if required - I've asked for mine to be really grotty; should be ready at the beginning of next week. Regards, Dave What colour are they Dave - did you get a chance to see? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danemouth Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 What colour are they Dave - did you get a chance to see? Sorry Mike, four parcels from Hornby were coming in through the door as I was leaving - I will be collecting my weathered version the middle of next week and will post a picture, Regards, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 That looks like the original Hornby catalogue illustration so it might not, hopefully, confirm what colour it is (but if it is grey it is wrong; all the Reading ones were very definitely black) Hi Mike, Kernow have received all there versions, and the Reading version (the GWR version) is Grey and not Black: http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/product/39560/R6643_Hornby_Shunters_Truck_number_DW94955_BR_Grey_ Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2013 Hi Mike, Kernow have received all there versions, and the Reading version (the GWR version) is Grey and not Black: http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/product/39560/R6643_Hornby_Shunters_Truck_number_DW94955_BR_Grey_ Simon Thanks Simon - yes I found that earlier this evening on the Kernow newsletter. I have a pre-order in for one mainly for sentimental reasons and I will stick with it but it's great shame that having produced what looks like a reasonable job (even with the brakes 'on') Hornby couldn't have got a basic detail like that correct. But not to worry too much as the Bachmann ones in BR livery should be in black if my conversation with them at Ally Pally was duly heeded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted July 29, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 29, 2013 I can't resist adding some photos to the thread..... I have taken a bit of a summer off from modelling, hence why there has been no posting about progress with Wharncliffe for a while. But when the Summer newsletter came through from Hattons, I could not resist. (Working on the basis that when the Bachmann one comes out, I might not be quick enough!!) First the plug for Hattons - the newsletter came through on Thursday.... I ordered it on Saturday, with their standard delivery of £4... received an email to say it had been packed yesterday (Sunday). At 8am I received a text to say ot would be delivered today and at about 10am a courier pulled up outside work, with my parcel - wow! Terrific service from Hattons thank you. Ok now the Hornby review: Like a lot of people on here, I too have been critical of Hornby of late, due to all the recent issues. But this model is terrific. Ok so I know the brake handle is in the wrong position, but I reckon it will be easy enough to change that. then I might go further and make it a bit scruffy and I reckon that will be all the work needed to have a cracking little model. But don't take my word for it, have a look at the photos: This is almost full-size. The only adjustment in photoshop has been to change the brightness / sharpness etc. No other adjustments have been made. Now if they can make a model as good as this for £9...... I was originally thinking about giving it pick-ups to connect onto the 57xx, but there is not much room! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted July 29, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 29, 2013 Hi Neal I assume you have somewhere to leave it park up out of the way on your layout or are you going to mangle the brake handles into the off position. They are nice photo's but I won't be in a hurry to get one I've spotted more things on it I would not be happy with. Thanks for posting. i will be changing the Mortons brake handle. Whilst some of the photos show the handrails not exactly straight, by the time you look at the actual model (smallest photo), they pale into insignificance. (in my mind) Ok I agree it forces me to change a few things, but I am happy with that. I will change the brake handle and weather it, to tone down the very white handrails. It will look fine, behind a 57xx pottering around Wharncliffe when finished! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted July 29, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 29, 2013 Super little model, well done Hornby, personally the brake lever looks very easy to adjust. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted July 29, 2013 Author Share Posted July 29, 2013 I received my two GWR Shunter trucks from Hattons today. Although I have said I have some moans with the Hornby version, I have got to say that despite this they do radiate charm. I still keep thinking I am holding a Cambrian version and not a RTR version!! Briefly pushed one up and down the track this evening and they run very smoothly. Which diagram has Hornby gone with for their Shunter truck by the way? Also, am I right in saying that this is the smallest wagon on the RTR market at the moment in time? Garethp8873. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danemouth Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Collected my weathered BR Shunters Truck from Lord & Butler this morning. They offer various degrees of weathering - I asked for mine to be grotty: and one with the obligatory pannier L & B charge £13.95 for the weathered version. Usual caveat, Regards, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 Looks great Danemouth! They always look the part with a Pannier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 30, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2013 Very nice Dave - and it raises an interesting question - do you put the shunters truck in front of the loco or behind it? (Sorry that is actually a rhetorical question, but it could be fun seeing how the answers are arrived at .) It would definitely look better with close coupling as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matabiau Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I have just received my pair of shunters trucks from Modelrailwaysdirect. The BR version is definitely dark grey (darker than the GWR version) and not black. I was very pleased to see that Hornby have weighted the truck so it is much heavier than it looks. As such there should be no danger of it derailing when being pushed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted July 30, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2013 Very nice Dave - and it raises an interesting question - do you put the shunters truck in front of the loco or behind it? (Sorry that is actually a rhetorical question, but it could be fun seeing how the answers are arrived at .) It would definitely look better with close coupling as well. All right. I'll have a go! Pure guesswork as I'm not familiar with how the little beasties were used. I'd put it in front of the loco because placing a low wagon between it and the wagons being shunted would improve visibility for the driver in that direction (the view which is obstructed by the tanks). Tin hat now on! Definitely agree about the close coupling. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danemouth Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 All right. I'll have a go! Pure guesswork as I'm not familiar with how the little beasties were used. I'd put it in front of the loco because placing a low wagon between it and the wagons being shunted would improve visibility for the driver in that direction (the view which is obstructed by the tanks). Tin hat now on! Definitely agree about the close coupling. John John, The DVD is a "B & R Ultimate Archive Steam Series Vol 160 - Steam in Wales and the Borders Part 3". shows a shunters truck at Pontypool Road at 38' 55" coupled behind the loco; that accords with a 55 year old memory of mine! The one I've purchased will be left like a poor lost orphan at the end of a siding since a station the size of Danemouth wouldn't need one - I may well remove the couplings, Regards, . Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 30, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2013 All right. I'll have a go! Pure guesswork as I'm not familiar with how the little beasties were used. I'd put it in front of the loco because placing a low wagon between it and the wagons being shunted would improve visibility for the driver in that direction (the view which is obstructed by the tanks). Tin hat now on! Definitely agree about the close coupling. John That represents the ideal I reckon John - most engines, including diesel shunters as it happens, were more comfortable to drive for shunting with the chimney/front end towards what was being shunted. If they were cab end leading the Driver would be spending time part twisting round to watch the Shunters. Now as the Shunters, or one of them, might well ride on the truck for some of the time while shunting it made it better for the dDriver to have the Shunters' truck ahead of the loco and between it and what it was shunting. All well and good in yards which had separate Up & Down pilots but could get a bit awkward if the single pilot had to shunt in both directions at some time or other. Edit to correct typo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I'm thinking I usually recall them being coupled BEHIND pannier tanks but IN FRONT of diesel shunters. CHRIS LEIGH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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