branchie Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Having lost my n gauge modelling mojo I'm looking to expand my modelling experiences ...... So, does anybody have a plan for Oakleigh Sidings near Northwich (ideally around the late 80s/ early 90s? Many thanks, Christian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggy0_1 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Having lost my n gauge modelling mojo I'm looking to expand my modelling experiences ...... So, does anybody have a plan for Oakleigh Sidings near Northwich (ideally around the late 80s/ early 90s? Many thanks, Christian. Hi Christian, i was given some 1:2500 plans of winnington, northwich etc many years ago,but i'm sure they covered the 1960's though, i can try and find them if they might be of any use and try and get them scanned to a more managable size as they are quite large. Darren 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Hi Christian, I visited Oakleigh sidings a number of times in 1998 and a few times thereafter and somewhere in my collection there will be some photos. I did have the priviledge of being allowed into the yard by the groundstaff a few times to look at the wagons, which by that time were CAIB PGAs on the Tunstead limestone traffic and EWS MGR coal hoppers. The famous ICI bogie hopper wagons were by this time restricted to the works only beyond the bridge. I don't have a plan of the sidings but you can purchase one from this site - Old Maps http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html - enter Northwich in the search box or try the coordinates 365261, 373752 which will centre you on Oakleigh Sidings. Select the Post-WWII maps from the drop-down list on the right and you will get several 1:10, 000 and 1:10,560 scale maps but there is a good 1:2500 scale map dating from 1965-66. That should give you some idea of the sidings. You can purchase the map in different formats from and emailed PDF for £16 upto printed framed maps £50. I have no connection with Old Maps but I have used them to obtain maps of the quarry lines around Buxton that proved most useful in planning my layout. The local library in Northwich may well have copies of similar 1:2500 scale maps but IIRC you cannot obtain more than an A4 extract from any one map that is less than 50 years old so it would take a long time to get the full sidings. HTH Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
branchie Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 Many thanks to you both Darren & Paul. I'll do some more investigative work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9FEd Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) This question prompted me to sign up to RM Web as a fellow N gauge modeller also seeking to recreate Oakleigh sidings as a 'mini project'. I am currently building a micro layout (that has grown to 2.5ft x 5ft) of Wallerscote Island but am considering a 'shunting plank' based on Oakleigh as a follow on project - particularly given the very recent end of trains to Oakleigh. I have found the old maps website useful and have a copy of the relevant map for 1977, although other research reveals as with so many industrial sidings that you can justify many different track layouts as the sidings have been regularly expanded/contracted/relayed/modified. There are some good pictures in the Foxline 'Railways Across Mid Cheshire' and the Cheona 'History of the ICI Hopper Wagon, but a trawl of Flickr/google is also fruitful. I have amassed a few Mond PCA and TTA tanks to populate my layouts. I sense the potential for research synergies... How is your investigative work going Branchie? Edited February 10, 2014 by 9FEd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Hi 9FEd, I am glad my book on the ICI hoppers proved useful. I have some photos of Oakleigh Sidings from 1998 somewhere when most of the sidings were intact and most were still in use for receiving limestone in the air-braked PGA hoppers that replaced the former ICI hoppers at the end of 1997. Fast forward to 2005 and the sidings and loops were reduced to just two lines forming a loop roughly in the middle of the old yard. And now no traffic at all. Mind you they will need to go and collect the sole-remaining JEA wagon at some point so there might just be one final working into Oakleigh to gain access to Winnington to collect the wagon. Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9FEd Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Paul, I very much enjoyed your book, I feel there is scope for a follow-on type volume on the internal railways of ICI Winnington/Wallerscote?! Would it be possible for you to share some of your photos of Oakleigh? Obviously there are some great photos in the book but understandably you could only devote so much space to Oakleigh. I'd also be interested in fleshing out the operational side of Oakleigh, especially when the hoppers were steam hauled. In particular when a train was brought into Oakleigh and then departed with empties did that mean the steam engine ran tender first on the return? Or was it normal practice to turn engines using the Hartford triangle? Looking forward to your response, Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Hi Ed, there was lots more we could have put into the book originally but given that the book had already doubled in size to the final 112 pages we felt we had to stop somewhere! I can dig out my prints and scan some of them in from 1998 showing the PGA and HAA hoppers that were using the sidings at the time. Usually a pair of 37s would bring in the half train of PGAs from Northwich Sidings where it had already dropped off the rear portion of the train and shunted it back into Lostock Works. The wagons would be parked in the first loop and the locos would be released and ran off via the spur line that links the two halves of the yard. They would then either drop onto the rake of empties in the sidings. Similarly the loaded HAAs and empties would be dropped and collected in a similar fashion. The footbridge over the yard was a good place to watch on a Saturday morning when I started to visit albeit very belatedly on my part I just wish I had gone when the JGV hoppers were still running doh! As for the steam era I am not totally certain but I can find out. Given that the line was originally a through line down to Wallerscote works and worked as a branch there may have been a turntable that the steam engines used on the Winnington works site. Or the other option would be to turn the engines on Hartford triangle as you mentioned. Peter Midwinter aka trains12 who I co-wrote the book with had already done a lot of research on the ICI operations around Northwich and some of that was used in the book but it was intended for use with another publisher originally I think but for many reasons never got published so Peter kept the material. I know he did a lot of research down at Winnington in the old archives when it was still ICI and the puzzling thing is exactly where these archives went after ICI was divested into the separate companies in 1991. I have checked the archives and been in contact with a number of people but to date I haven't solved where all the railway archives went. Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Interesting thread!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9FEd Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Paul, I would really appreciate it if you could scan and share some photos, I am particularly interested in more panoramic photos that show the general layout of the sidings (and how many tracks passed under the road bridge?). Photos that show the differing traffic types would also be great. If you could aid my operational understanding on steam too, I would be very grateful. My interest in this area stems from studying economic history at university where I realised a case study of Brunner Mond could act as case study to answer the classic question in economic history: do railways cause economic growth? My dissertation topic was chosen on purely academic criteria, scope for originality and ease of research etc. Indeed, at the time, my interest in trains was thoroughly dormant, a legacy of the childhood 8x4ft trainset, but researching the project rekindled my interest as I realised what a relevant piece of history I had on my doorstep. As a result, I have covered both the archives at Chester, the National Archives in London and emailed Brunner Mond but likewise drawn a blank on primary material on the Northwich ICI rail network, albeit I was only keeping an eye out for anything that came up incidentally in the course of my main research. I would be very interested in Peter's research, I do feel there must be scope to potentially restart something in that area. As an aside, I saw your joint layout in Model Rail a while back - very impressive indeed! Tempted me to attempt something similar, merely at the other end of the journey for the hoppers! Thanks again, Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Hi Ed, I will attempt to scan some of my photos from Oakleigh Sidings in for you. Only drawback is my Epson scanner is at my parents house still and my PC is up here in Bolton and not any room for the scanner here damm. So will have to scan them on my mums PC instead and do it that way for now and bung them on a memory stick to bring them home. Going back to the traffic types in the early 1990s soda ash was still being transported by rail and used ICI Monds own PCA tanks or for the glassworks traffic they used Rockware Glass dark blue liveried PCAs. However this traffic had ceased by the mid 1990s and there was no outbound traffic thereafter. More recently two additional traffics were seen at Winnington for the old salt mines stabilisation scheme to pump out salt brine that was dispatched the sort journey to Middlewich works in EWS owned and refurbished TEA bogie tank wagons coded CTAs and inbound loads of power station fly-ash that would be mixed with cement to form a grout that would then be pumped underground. The fly-ash arrived in rakes of EWS MBA bogie box wagons. Great Tunsley Dale was an interesting layout to plan and build simply because we realised that we could realistically model only a small part of the actual Tunstead quarry rail workings. But that portion that we managed to model certainly captures the essence of the area well. Another chap Brian who I know through researching the ICI hoppers concurs with what Peter remembers seeing and Brian tells me that the basement archives where very extensive and all of the railway related material was held there in amongst other archives. But it all seems to have disappeared and no clues as to where it went or god forbid if it simply got chucked away! Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalriel Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Hi I hope this web site helps regarding your plans http://maps.cheshire.gov.uk/tithemaps/ Just type the town you want to look at in the search engine and it works like Google Earth only has all the old 1875, 1910 maps along with a satellite view of the Town from the 70's! I found it very handy myself with the old plans of Northwich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I presume that the archives would have been at the main office building in Northwich in which case if one could find who was the services manager at the time of closure you might be able to find out what happened to them .The ICI old lags network is well know for keeping in touch with each other. I will have a word the a friend of mine who is involved with the Runcorn Histrocial group and see if he knows what might of happened to the records as I know achives like that very often get offered to societies like that just to get rid of them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Hi Ed, following on from my previous email I have scanned some of my photos of Oakleigh Sidings and put them in a set on my flickr site here http://www.flickr.com/photos/34475484@N08/sets/72157642034415844/ The first nine photos are from 1998 and show the limestone and coal arriving in CAIB PGAs and EWS MGR hoppers. The tenth photo is from 2000 and shows that there were three lines passing under Winnington Road bridge. There used to be a lot more around 7-8 lines leading from Oakleigh Sidings down into Winnington yard but I think these were rationalised in the early 80s. Of the three only the middle and right hand lines were in use, the left hand line looking down into Winnington itself was rarely used at this point. Just under a year later removal of the now surplus sidings was well underway. The new JEA 102t hoppers and the new rapid unloading facility did away with the need for the EWS loco to park the loaded wagons in Oakleigh as they were now permitted to enter Winnington works under control off the site foreman once permission had been obtained over the phone by the Northwich shunter guy. Photos eleven to fourteen show the site clearance. I probably have some more somewhere just need to find them plus I have some b/w photos that I acquired with the negatives some years ago so I am guessing I have the copyright on these. These show the ICI hoppers and Buxton 37s in Oakleigh. HTH Cheers Paul 08:11 08/02/14 Editted to update link to revised photo set on Flickr Edited March 8, 2014 by pharrc20 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9FEd Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Amazing, thank you very much for going to such effort - the pictures are great. Any more would always be a bonus but to have these is extremely welcome. I'm going to continue to mine your knowledge and ask: Did the MGR coal wagons discharge into the same unloading facility as the limestone wagons (seems unlikely?) or did they have a separate under track discharge point? Also, presumably the coal traffic ended at some point as coal power was replaced with, eg oil? I have noticed that if you look at the current Winnington site on google maps the sidings that curve to the left after the roadbridge split into two, on the right side there is the current unloading pit and limestone storage but on the left side there appears to be what could have been coal unloading facilities and a large heap of coal (?). Conveyors lead from both areas into what I presume is a screening plant, which itself has a conveyor to the lime kilns so my assumption is that there are separate discharge points from which raw materials (coal, limestone) pass (but are kept separate) into a common screening plant before being fed into the kilns? On a related note, another area I am really struggling to get any photos or even much info on is Gorstage sidings/Wallerscote light railway in general, have you come across anything that covers those areas? Would be particularly interested in anything that shows the relationship between the sidings and any junction/connection to the WCML (I can't even find any relevant track plans). Hopefully if we put out some feelers for the archives we might get some information, or at least know to stop looking! It would be great to find them, not just from a narrow modelling perspective but because of their general importance in terms of industrial history. Thanks again for all your help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-e Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I have a couple of TOPS reports from the 1980's for Northwich details below I hope they are of use to modellers of the time. 1st one is from 31st May 1984 2nd one 4th Feb 1984 shows how things were changing in the North west 40's and 25's in Feb then 20's and 47's in May I wont go to much into the history of T.O.P.S as this can be found here but basically T.O.P.S was the computerised system for tracking Locos / Coaches and Wagons. What all enthusiasts were after was the Holy Grail of the platform - a T.O.P.S report, remember this was a time before the Internet or the mobile phone and your information came from the men in the know (or the men with contacts in the T.O.P.S office) although why I would have a couple from Northwich I dont know. POWER REPORT FOR NORTHWICH AT 12.16 ON 31.05.84NOTHING TO REPORT OUT OF SERVICE LOCOSMAINLINE LOCOS ON HAND OK ********************LOCO DP SP T BK NEXT NEXT PREASSD O FUEL TIM-AV WTT ALLOCNO AL CH H TY RW EXAM MAJOR TO HRDY P HRS HRDYMO 1 2LOCATION-37204-NORTHWHSD M&EE 20077 TO O VA A 37 B 124 N 000?F 19300520141 TO O VA A 37 B 115 N 000?X 19300547205 CD S M C XA A 33 B 202 N 061 F 083105 LV6647246 BR O XA A 29 B 48 N 000?F 093105 6E2647348 CD S M O XA A 11 B -52 CD 0601 N 044 F 033105 6Z45NOTHING TO REPORT TRAINSLOCOMOTIVES ALLOCATED TO ARRIVE *********************LOCO DP SP T BK NEXT NEXT PREASSD O FUEL WTT TO WTTNO AL CH H TY RW EXAM MAJOR TO HRDY P HRS ARRIVE ALLOCLOCATION-37122- OAKLEIGH ICI 20163 TO O VA A 22 D 163 N 000?F 6F4320173 TO O VA A 22 B 16 N 000?F 6F43 LOCATION -37130- NORTHWICH BR 20185 TO O VA B 27 B 27 N 000?F 6F42 6H4620186 TO O VA B 42 B 42 N 000?F 6F42 6H4647205 CD S M O XA A 33 B 202 N 061?F LV66ENDNNNN POWER REPORT FOR NORTHWICH AT 13.31 ON 04.02.84NOTHING TO REPORT OUT OF SERVICE LOCOSMAINLINE LOCOS ON HAND OK ********************LOCO DP SP T BK NEXT NEXT PREASSD O FUEL TIM-AV WTT ALLOCNO AL CH H TY RW EXAM MAJOR TO HRDY P HRS HRDYMO 1 2LOCATION-37204- NORTHWHSD M&EE 40022 KD C X XA A 7 B 181 N 065 F 110402 6H46 6F44 LOCATION -37233- MIDDLEWCH BRIT SALT40104 LO C X XA A 27? D -659 N 000?F 090402 LB31TRAINS DUE TO ARRIVE WITH LOCOS FOR DETACHMENT ********************LOCO DP SP T BK NEXT NEXT PREASSD O FUEL E.T.A. TRAIN WTT ALLOCNO AL CH H TY RW EXAM MAJOR TO HRDY P HRS HRMIDY IDENTITY 1 2LOCATION-37122- OAKLEIGH ICI40015 CD C C XA A 1? E -564 N 042 F 125904 056M27C 04 LV5525119 CD O VV A 35 B 204 N 035 F 150804 346F43C 04LOCATION -37130- NORTHWICH BR47049 HA M C XA NH A 19 B 56 HA 1631 N 000?F 134004 346F42C 0447289 TE S M O XA A 44 B 185 N 028 F 141004 TRFD 0Z00RLOCOMOTIVES ALLOCATED TO ARRIVE *********************LOCO DP SP T BK NEXT NEXT PREASSD O FUEL WTT TO WTTNO AL CH H TY RW EXAM MAJOR TO HRDY P HRS ARRIVE ALLOCLOCATION-37011- WINSFORD BR25195 CD O VV NM A 35? D1614 N 097 F 4Z28 0Z00LOCATION-37122- OAKLEIGH ICI40022 KD C X XA A 7 B 181 N 065 F 6H46 6F44 LOCATION - 37130- NORTHWICH BR40015 CD C C XA A 1? E -564 N 042 F LV55ENDNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I will have a look through some of the photos that I took on the occasions that I managed to get around Winnington works and look at my notes. I recall that the limestone from the PGAs and also the backlime in the JGV hoppers was discharged in the shed around the corner as was coke that was shovel loaded into empty JGVs and these were unloaded via the same shed. As for the coal unloading I will check and see if my photos show anything but I think the unloading area was down by the riverside in the lower yard. Yes I have never come across much on the Wallerscote Light Railway or indeed the Gorstage branch and the yard at Hartford. I have a couple of photos and that's about it. I will try and scan some more asap. Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I have updated and added some more photos to my Flickr set see the link above. The coal arriving in MGR hoppers was indeed discharged down by the river. Looking from the overbridge into Winnington yard on photos 10 and 19 the grey unloading shed was located down the end of the sidings and accessed by the right-hand fan of sidings. It is hard to pick out on the photos and I haven't found any other ones so I would guess I was trying to save my film to record the ICI hoppers, which we either long-time stored or being used internally to move backlime and coke around from the loading point back to the unloading shed. Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9FEd Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Just been browsing the expanded set, you have added some great photos! Too many to highlight but I particularly like the 1999 portrait shot of the (Class 08?) shunter ahead of the Class 47, just ahead of the roadbridge on the Oakleigh side. That's a helpful insight, I presume the MGR wagons were simply drawn through said grey shed to discharge into a below track pit? To summarise: Inputs: Limestone, backlime, coke (generally sent through left hand fan of sidings looking through roadbridge to Winnington) and coal (sent through right hand siding fan). Outputs: Soda Ash by PCA until early 1990s (loaded somewhere in the works and then shunted into Oakleigh for collection?) Operation: Until track relaying mainline locos went no further than the roadbridge; was this simply a matter of policy (as you suggest) or was there also another reason such as inadequate storage at the works so raw materials were effectively stored in the wagons in Oakleigh sidings until needed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 It is a shame that Soda Ash traffic in POO's to Partington did not go out through Oakleigh. Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Hi Ed, from memory the works hired class 08 would come up and collect either the half rake of loaded PGAs and take them down to the unloading shed on the left side and then later on take the loaded MGR wagons and these went down into the right side fan of sidings. I think they were split into smaller rakes perhaps two side by side to be unloaded in the grey shed. Sometimes the PGAs arrived first then the MGRs other times vice versa as you can see from my photos as I have scanned them in print order for each date. Although I never saw the PCAs being loaded as they had long gone by 1998 but looking at my notes that I scribbled and drew in the pI$$ing rain that always seemed to accompany my visits to Oakleigh and Winnington, the loading for the soda ash tanks was right in the middle of the works I think beyond where the rakes of stored PHV hoppers stood. BR locos were in the time I visited only permitted to shunt upto the road bridge and videos on youtube from the early 1990s show the same. The works shunters were able to shunt all of Oakleigh Sidings to bring empty hoppers back up from the works and shunt them back into the left hand sidings as shown in the photos. Outgoing loaded tanks were also parked in here. I guess the works shunters were able to shunt as far the Chester Road overbridge or thereabouts. On my visits to Winnington the original works shunters were still on site but parked up awaiting disposal including the two class 08 lookalikes. Sadly I neglected to take any photos of these concentrating on the hoppers if only I had a pocket full of films that day! So shunting was done by hired in class 08s including 08867. Storage of the incoming limestone and coal was an issue and so this sometimes meant the wagons stayed in Oakleigh until needed and only then taken down into the works for unloading. I have some more photos of loaded wagons in the sidings at Winnington from my visits as well plus some of the lime and coke unloading shed. Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Good pictures!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j310794 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) Paul, I very much enjoyed your book, I feel there is scope for a follow-on type volume on the internal railways of ICI Winnington/Wallerscote?! Would it be possible for you to share some of your photos of Oakleigh? Obviously there are some great photos in the book but understandably you could only devote so much space to Oakleigh. I'd also be interested in fleshing out the operational side of Oakleigh, especially when the hoppers were steam hauled. In particular when a train was brought into Oakleigh and then departed with empties did that mean the steam engine ran tender first on the return? Or was it normal practice to turn engines using the Hartford triangle? Looking forward to your response, Ed Hi Ed, there was lots more we could have put into the book originally but given that the book had already doubled in size to the final 112 pages we felt we had to stop somewhere! I can dig out my prints and scan some of them in from 1998 showing the PGA and HAA hoppers that were using the sidings at the time. Usually a pair of 37s would bring in the half train of PGAs from Northwich Sidings where it had already dropped off the rear portion of the train and shunted it back into Lostock Works. The wagons would be parked in the first loop and the locos would be released and ran off via the spur line that links the two halves of the yard. They would then either drop onto the rake of empties in the sidings. Similarly the loaded HAAs and empties would be dropped and collected in a similar fashion. The footbridge over the yard was a good place to watch on a Saturday morning when I started to visit albeit very belatedly on my part I just wish I had gone when the JGV hoppers were still running doh! As for the steam era I am not totally certain but I can find out. Given that the line was originally a through line down to Wallerscote works and worked as a branch there may have been a turntable that the steam engines used on the Winnington works site. Or the other option would be to turn the engines on Hartford triangle as you mentioned. Peter Midwinter aka trains12 who I co-wrote the book with had already done a lot of research on the ICI operations around Northwich and some of that was used in the book but it was intended for use with another publisher originally I think but for many reasons never got published so Peter kept the material. I know he did a lot of research down at Winnington in the old archives when it was still ICI and the puzzling thing is exactly where these archives went after ICI was divested into the separate companies in 1991. I have checked the archives and been in contact with a number of people but to date I haven't solved where all the railway archives went. Cheers Paul I've made an account on this website specifically to comment on this thread, sorry if I am a little late (I am not a railway modeller, but I live in Northwich and have been researching the local chemical industry for a few years). I have not read or heard of a turntable anywhere in the works, although it is highly likely that there was one at some point during the first half of the 20th century. If you study the map I have attached (from around 1965-66), you will notice a loop next to the river that seems to have been accessed through the right hand group of sidings. Is it possible that this loop was used to turn steam locomotives? I can provide the full map of the works if anyone needs it. Edited April 17, 2014 by j310794 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted April 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2014 Hello all, This is a really interesting thread - thanks to all especially Paul H for scanning his photos. I recall seeing those rakes of PGA hoppers, and in more recent years the JEA wagons, and wondering about their destination. I also hadn't realised the Oakleigh trains had stopped running - has the plant closed down? I'd be very surprised if it was better by road.... Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Hi Ben A, thanks for the comments. I have lots more photos of the PGAs and a whole set of notes with the livery and sticker details somewhere stashed away. Tata Chemicals who now operate the chemicals plants at Northwich decided to close its soda ash and calcium chloride factory in Winnington, retain and expand the sodium bicarbonate factory in Winnington and retain its soda ash and sodium bicarbonate factories in Lostock. It was first rumoured last year but it wasn't until this year that the plans were confirmed. Hence no longer needing deliveries of limestone to Oakleigh Sidings for Winnington Works. Cheers Paul http://www.northwichguardian.co.uk/news/10724558.220_jobs_at_risk_as_Tata_considers_closing_its_Winnington_soda_ash_factory/ http://www.northwichguardian.co.uk/news/10867159.Tata_confirms_New_Year_Winnington_closures/?ref=mr http://www.northwichguardian.co.uk/news/10983008.End_of_an_era_at_Winnington_plant/?ref=mr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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