Rail-Online Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Hi, Found this on the edge of a neg and thought it worth sharing. I don't recognise the parentage of these two vehicles but to me they look pre-grouping with a re-build in LNER days (probably over-plating where the beading has been removed?) The one on the left vaguely looks GER to me with its short bogies. A typical 1950s scene (1959), but soon to be withdrawn with all the CCT's and GUV's being constructed. Any thoughts and info apprecialted! Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I don't have a picture to hand to compare, but are they the vehicles built from a GE underframe and new body in the 1950s by BR? I agree about the bogies (although they could be from a number of other pregrouping companies) but that's the first thing which springs to mind. Is the picture taken on the Eastern or Great Eastern section somewhere? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted March 7, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2013 Hi, Found this on the edge of a neg and thought it worth sharing. I don't recognise the parentage of these two vehicles but to me they look pre-grouping with a re-build in LNER days (probably over-plating where the beading has been removed?) The one on the left vaguely looks GER to me with its short bogies. A typical 1950s scene (1959), but soon to be withdrawn with all the CCT's and GUV's being constructed. Any thoughts and info apprecialted! Tony Tony, These were BR conversions from ex-GER and LNER NC coaches. My researches over the years have gleaned the following information; (the codes at the end of each line are for individual references - contact me off-group if you need any interpretation). NO DIAGRAM CCT(E) (GER ILFORD STOCK U-F) (Nos.E71035-99E, SOME FOR ANGLO-SCOTTISH CAR CARRIER)JD-PCLS;LC-P103;BRM1-P197;BPRS-P32;BR6-PL43;CD1;BRM-8/04; NO DIAGRAM CCT(E) (LNER ILFORD STOCK U-F) (Nos.E71000-34E, SOME FOR ANGLO-SCOTTISH CAR CARRIER)TI-10/61;JD-PCLS;LC-P113;MRAIL-8/00;CD1;BRM-8/04; NO DIAGRAM PMV (GER ILFORD STOCK U-F) (Nos.E6001-81E)JD-PCLS;LC-P113;BR6-PL41;CD1; DIAGRAM 817 CCT (Ex LNER U-F) (Nos.E96200-3E) MRC-5/83;BRM1-P198,203;TI-10/61(?);MRAIL-8/00;CD1; All of these variants are covered by my transfer sheet C64; see http://www.cctrans.freeserve.co.uk/products.htm . Regards, John Isherwood, Cambridge Custom Transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stuartp Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 The ones in your pic are the 'No diagram' ex-GER PMV (left) and CCT(E) (right). More photos in David Larkin's "BR GEneral Parcels Rolling Stock' (CCT(E)) and Geoff Gamble's 'Railways in Profile' volume on NPCCS (both). The latter contains a photo taken at Millerhill so they got about a bit. Here's one I did earlier with John's transfers (ta !): Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Is that a scratchbuild, Stuart? It's very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 Is the picture taken on the Eastern or Great Eastern section somewhere? Sorry I should have said, taken at Holloway Road so the end door one is on ECML motor car duties. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stuartp Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Thanks. It's a 'bitsa' - Lima GUV body with 3/4" sawn off, Tri-ang roof, Ratio LNWR bogies with the bolster beefed up a bit and new sides from 20 thou overlaid on the Lima ones. Underframe from wire and Evergreen strip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 Thanks everyone, is it me or are parcels stock a bit of a 'missing link' in the information printed to modellers/historianns? There is lots of info on goods stock and although some railways' NPCS is well covered (eg MR. LMS, ) others are not. LNER and early BR, GER, GCR GNR (in fact most of the LNER constituents) for instance? Cheers Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Thanks everyone, is it me or are parcels stock a bit of a 'missing link' in the information printed to modellers/historianns? There is lots of info on goods stock and although some railways' NPCS is well covered (eg MR. LMS, ) others are not. LNER and early BR, GER, GCR GNR (in fact most of the LNER constituents) for instance? Cheers Tony There's a lot of material scattered around, but it tends to be at the back of the appropriate Passenger book; not much use if, like me, you're interested in NPCCS but not really in carriages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 There's quite a bit in Historic Carriage Drawings Vol 1 and some in Vol 3, but the definitive work has still to be written. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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