Ian Fisher Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 Next up for an airing is the RLF the first one to get taken to bits! New etched roof pane,l roevacs added hurst door opening locks Still to be done are Shawplan window frames, though the moulded ones have been taken down and an attempt to remove the taper has been started *photographs are uploaded but not showing on post.....uploaded again and hey presto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Bodyworks have been virtually complete for a good while now, will have to do some tidy up work and post an update! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 I came across some new kits the other day from Britannia Pacific models one is for 999602, I am currently requesting a little more information from BP to see what era the sides represent. They also get a mention in Rail Express Modeller November's issue. Would be a nice combination with a brake runner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 16, 2013 I came across some new kits the other day from Britannia Pacific models one is for 999602, I am currently requesting a little more information from BP to see what era the sides represent. They also get a mention in Rail Express Modeller November's issue. Would be a nice combination with a brake runner. If you're running the UTU with a non-generator fitted RTOV (9702 or 9703) then you'll need a generator van. Recent formations in the last 3-4 months have been: 9708/999602/9523 9703/999602/6262 9703/999602/6263 6262/999602/977969 (presumably top n tailed) Only 9523 is a dedicated brake force runner. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Thanks for the information Mick. Looks like I need a partner for 9713 then! Edit I meant 9714!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 16, 2013 Thanks for the information Mick. Looks like I need a partner for 9713 then! 9713? NR only have 9701/2/3/8/14. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Read yer own posts Fisher....not numbered but in the shell I had 9714! Oops Thanks for the correction Mick 9713? NR only have 9701/2/3/8/14. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 16, 2013 9714 seems to have been running with 999606 for quite some time, usually with 72630 as BFR. Although a recent list shows 9714 with RSC1 977868 and staff coach 977969 Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 Just had another look at their site and realised they do 606 too! Wont order two of them though. So 602 or 606? Hmmm 9714 seems to have been running with 999606 for quite some time, usually with 72630 as BFR. Although a recent list shows 9714 with RSC1 977868 and staff coach 977969 Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 17, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 17, 2013 Just a thought - depends upon how up to date you want to be? It looks like BP's 999602 is pre-recent rebuild. Before and after photos here Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 606 looks a better bet, I have a tso in store that could cut up to be 72630. Never easy is it! Thanks again for the info Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 72630 was built as a TSO 2f and converted for use on Gatwick Express units. I intend to use a Airfix 2d TSO E5690 an original release I think. 72630 seems to be an easier chop up. It will be mainly an exrecise in removing detail and adding back a few 2d to 2f details and those carried for its conversion to a 488. The roof tank as that of 9714 will be swapped for a Southern Pride etch. The coach ends will have the recess cut into them. The extra toilet window (2d) will be filled and smoothed, fortunately the usual opposing side window of a 2f seems to have been filled in during its life so will allow that side to stay as is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 This is down to the penguin of doom. I dug out my seam scraper to see just how effictive it is in removing surface detail, well the window frames succumbed in less than three passes. It is a useful tool most effective and non marking as it is such a large cutting edge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 Just hope I have the right end! I have made a start of marking out and cutting the equipment box into the end. Looks like I just need to keep everything neat and add a backing piece of plasticard and the depth is given by the bodyshell depth. The extra 2d window has also been filled two layers of 30 thou and some superglue, once its cured it will probably need a little filler around the edge but looking neat job so far. I have tended to reuse old glazing then brought it flush with filler before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 20, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2013 If you've got the incorrect end, then so have I.... 977983 (pre EMV rebuild) I then add a piece across the bottom and cut off the excess backing piece 977997 (RSC3) - the connectors are round styrene. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 Thanks for the reassurance Mick! I have just smoothed the other end. If you've got the incorrect end, then so have I.... 977983 (pre EMV rebuild) 977983 016s.jpg I then add a piece across the bottom and cut off the excess backing piece 977997 (RSC3) - the connectors are round styrene. 977997s.jpg Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 Fortunately we have a few options now to model B4 bogies with hydraulic dampers, Southern Pride do a cosmetic whitemetal bogie and PH Designs have a cast one piece bogie as a complete replacement. I have a lot of potential 2f test stock and like the overall feel of the Airfix tooled B4. How hard then would it be to remove the link suspension and add the dampers? Well out with the craft knife and etched saw blade and the moulded detail has gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 Bit of neatening since last picture, ready for the new back soon, then a version of the details Mick added on his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 Making good for the Southern Pride etched roof plate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 The back piece was cut from 30 thou sheet approximately 20mm x 7mm this was cemented in. The lower edge being reinstated with a piece of 144 Evergreen strip 1mm x 2mm x 5mm. I will look to maybe file this flush once its gone off, but in some images there seems to be a slight overhang, anyway its one to sleep on. Ready for those new connectors now, that will be a bit off. The side window just been attacked with some emery after looking at the pic above, just think it needs a touch of filler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 I hate clearing this large area of plastic, this is my fifth (?) One now and despite getting a feel for how long to go at it. I take a large smooth cut file to the area looking to tackle the area in sixths in an attempt to keep all areas equal. I think my main worry is the fact that the new etch is so visible and isnt something many people tackle, in getting it wrong just makes the roof look a failure. Vast majority gone, just needs a little fine emery. And a few polishes with a finnishing emery job done! The new details, the bigger etch and some roe vacs both Southern Pride. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 A few drops of superglue and the etch has its new home. I predrilled the holes for the handrails with a much bigger drill (1.5mm) I have found it easier than risking a .3m drill going through superglue and the plastic roof, the etch has nice small holes which more than hide the larger functional opening inside. Next will the simple task of bending up and fitting some .3mm nickel silver wire. Also fitted tonight are some roe vac vents, I think thats the roof detailing complete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 Of course with any vehicle of an age there are always going to be changes especially in areas like the underframe. Let us not forget that this as moulded is a 2d, which for its near or is it forty year pedigree must have been a bit of a revelation, after all we are still awaiting a more modern rtr air con model all these years on. Fortunately a few years ago I purchased a rake of Southern Pride 2f's which have given me a number of now dwindling spares and accurate information of what goes where on a 2f. The vast majority of changes would normally be on the none air con side, but as these vehicles had a change of use as 488 Gatwick multiple units came a big equipment box. A few minutes with the razor saw and the moulded detail is done away. The air co unit will be replaced, battery box will also be replaced with a finer version and support frame a real charater of these vehicles moulded all those years ago by Airfix but in a chunky mode. It would look like 72630 has had a replacement air brake distributor, just trying to work out if I carve off the one with the tank, I have also removed the support bracket, this can be replaced with an etch. Nearly all that needs to be hacked and chopped has been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 The other odd quirk of the original Airfix tooling was an angled buffer beam. I have found it easy to cut away the old one with a razor saw, then a packing piece of strip with the Southern Pride buffer beam glue over the front. From studying online images it would appear that 72630 only has buffers on the outer ends a carry over from its Gatwick 488 days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 Making way for a Kadee, get out the snips and chop out the moulded trussing, the other end will have a Smith coupling hook. I like buckeyes but only try to use them where the real railway use a version of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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