RMweb Gold Jonboy Posted May 7, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 7, 2013 Ok so it has been announced in the media today that Adobe are taking Creative Suite (and individual programs such as Photoshop) onto a monthly subscription model and I wonder how it affects/will affect users here? I have not really ever got beyond lightening backgrounds/contrasts etc. so doubt it would impact my hobby work but I am aware some people here put out some stunning images. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22432171 http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57582735-92/adobe-kills-creative-suite-goes-subscription-only/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tase Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 In a way I kinda like that idea; you always get the latest version to use but I do not like the fact that in effect one is only ever leasing the software from Adobe. I much prefer to own a physical disc however and just bear a one-off cost and upgrade if and when I choose to! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruffalo Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 In a way I kinda like that idea; you always get the latest version to use but I do not like the fact that in effect one is only ever leasing the software from Adobe. I much prefer to own a physical disc however and just bear a one-off cost and upgrade if and when I choose to! Two reasons spring to mind for Adobe's actions: 1 Too many unlicensed copies around 2 A nice little revenue stream Personally, I don't use Photoshop and I am fed up with the almost weekly upgrades to various Adobe products I see on the Microsoft platforms. If it is launched with so many issues, would you pay a monthly subscription for something not fit for purpose? I do use (and like) their pdf package but I am not sure that will become a monthly subscription program, there would be plenty of competitors to them doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Well on the plus side, Photoshop isn't the only photo editor in town, older versions will continue to work, and most image formats are easily opened with other programs. Photoshop Elements apparently continues as boxed software after the other stuff goes to subscription. On the minus, you're tied in to the subscription as long as you want to open your files in their original format. Specialist stuff like InDesign isn't easy to substitute with another product - the only real competitor is Quark, but converting between the two can be tricky, and there are features I use in inDesign which just aren't available in Quark. The subscription model allows you either a single product or the whole suite, so there's no longer an option for the print people to just have Creative Suite Standard (just InDesign, Illustrator, Photoshop, Acrobat Pro, without Flash/Dreamweaver/After Effects etc). I can see a lot of sales of CS6 (the last non-subscription version) happening now, followed by print and ad agencies holding fire for a year or two. Don't like (as someone who earns money from using InDesign). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tase Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Your second point is probably the driving factor for going down this route. Unfortunately, it's not just Adobe that launch software with 'issues'. This now seems to be the case with most if not all software including video games but considering the eye-watering prices of professional software the least I would expect is something that works without weekly fixes! Isn't that what product development and testing is for? Consumers should not be beta testers.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lakeview770 Posted May 8, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 8, 2013 I've been using the subscription service for I guess over a year now and prefer it over the boxed version. The one thing that suprises me though is how many people use it because it's Photoshop The software that came with my camera is pretty good and PS Elements is also a really powerful piece of software both a lot cheaper I guess people are hyped in to thinking got to use PS for my editing it will give me better images?. I only use PS CS for my work if I wasn't a photographer I'd be using Elements or Lightroom, I'm still using Lightroom 3.6 as it does 90%+ of my workflow the trick is to get it right in the camera first time? Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I've been using the subscription service for I guess over a year now and prefer it over the boxed version. ... Can I ask why you prefer the subs service to the perpetual licence for Photoshop? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fallen Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I use a very very old version of Elements on an equally old PC. I don't want it upgrading thank you, as it would not then run on the PC and I would have to buy another. Subscription users will find them are forced to upgrade their PC to keep using the automatically upgraded versions. Frank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 8, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 8, 2013 There has been perpetual rumours that Microsoft would (eventually) go this way for their products. E.g. Buy PC, Windows pre-loaded, need to sign-up to get it to work, then subscription from then on. Same with Office etc. I can see alternatives gaining ground (Linux/LibreOffice etc.) Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lakeview770 Posted May 8, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 8, 2013 Can I ask why you prefer the subs service to the perpetual licence for Photoshop? Hi I had PS CS4 and was looking to upgrade to CS5 almost a $1000 I pay $20 per month so it would be paid for in about 50 months/ approx 4 1/2 years and in that time Ive gone to CS6 at no extra cost. As others said it seems to be a market trend to go this way. I also play a MMO game and they too work on the same principle I guess it works out they get more money in the long run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Wow, that's a steep upgrade price. I just paid £260 to upgrade one version (CS5.5 to 6), and that included Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign (plus Acrobat Pro). Also pretty sure my upgrade from CS4 to CS5.5 for the same package was about the same, so give or take £500-600 for CS4 to 6 for the whole suite. And Adobe's UK prices are often closer to £1=$1 than they should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lakeview770 Posted May 9, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 9, 2013 Wow, that's a steep upgrade price. I just paid £260 to upgrade one version (CS5.5 to 6), and that included Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign (plus Acrobat Pro). Also pretty sure my upgrade from CS4 to CS5.5 for the same package was about the same, so give or take £500-600 for CS4 to 6 for the whole suite. And Adobe's UK prices are often closer to £1=$1 than they should be. My CS4 was registered to the companyy I worked for at the time and now I work for myself it would have probably been illegal for me to use the old CS4 registration from my old workplace in my name. So CS5 upgrade was really a new purchase which I got back from doing a wedding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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