hartleymartin Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Should I use 3'0" wheels or 3'7" wheel for the coach? My experience of very early 4-wheel short coaches were that they ran on 3'0" wheels. (Powerhouse Museum, Sydney)Mine is loosely based on this 2nd class coach of the Great Southern and Western Railway (later the New South Wales Government Railways) http://www.flickr.com/photos/83791520@N00/4438729137/ http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/collection/database/?irn=208535 A little bit of trivia - this carriage was originally numbered "6" before becoming no. 68 and later, W730 on the duplicate register where it was used as a work van. At restoration it was given the number "9" the website says that it has no significance, but I happen to know for a fact, that the NSWR often used the same artwork for 6 and 9 simply by inverting the decal or cast number. Chances are the apprentices put the intended decal on upside down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Don't forget six wheeled coaches, then there is the often forgotten eight wheeled coaches that did not have bogies. these had the outer axles fixed to the body with the inner two axles working like the middle axle on a six wheeled coach. Then bogies were introduced and that was that. OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted August 6, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 6, 2013 Interesting to see the photos of these coaches, I guess you're not going to model the 'colonial' double roofs (or are you)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Interesting to see the photos of these coaches, I guess you're not going to model the 'colonial' double roofs (or are you)? Interesting suggestion! I had not previously considered this possibility, but I think that having the double-roof would make for an interesting back-story for coaches that were a cancelled order for a colonial railway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted September 15, 2013 Author Share Posted September 15, 2013 Taking on the "colonial coach" idea, I've made a start on the interior of the coach body. The body is divided into four compartments, but these are paired together with half-height partitions. This is a feature which later disappeared from compartment coaches. As far as I can tell this was only done so that only two lamps would be needed instead of four. The interior is made up of a 1mm thick styrene floor onto which the seating and partitions are glued. The paritions are made from 1mm styrene sheet and the seats are plastic slaters ones. There are a number of odd sections of styrene used to form a glueing surface and hold them onto the floor. There is a surprising amount of weight with the whole lot glued together. When the coach exterior ends are added the coach will be 23 scale feet long - an unusual measurement, but intended to be an anonymous 19th century hand-me-down which has found it's way into light railway service instead of becoming a storage shed or henhouse. It will make a good companion for the Ixion Hudswell Clarke I have. I wonder how many passengers should I put into the interior? Sometimes I think that having none would be quite prototypical for a light railway in later days! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
switcher 1 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Shouldn't think more than 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted September 15, 2013 Author Share Posted September 15, 2013 Shouldn't think more than 3. And probably two of them in anoraks... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 And probably two of them in anoraks... You bad man!!!! It would have been duffel coats at that time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted September 19, 2013 Author Share Posted September 19, 2013 Tonight the coach has had the sides attached to the interior. I managed to get the tumblehome aswell by employing a mixture of David Jenkinson's methods and a small gas torch use to heat the plastic to encourage it to bend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 I glued some 4.8mm scribed sheet to the ends of the coach and filed it to shape. i got the arc of the roof from an old CD laying around. Buffer beams and sole bars from 6.35mm x 2.5mm styrene. I glued on those axle box assemblies at a 14'0" wheelbase (the coach is only 23'0" long) They are only cosmetic. When I get the spring assemblies from Connessiour models they will take the weight of the coach. I just need to make the roof, obtain some suitable buffers and coupling hooks and get it up on it's wheels. Oh yes, I need to prime and paint the thing too I suppose! I might think about adding footboards. I don't know yet. It's a freelanced coach, loosely based on an FR 4-wheel coach. The model scales out at 8'0" wide, and 23'0" long with a 14'0" wheelbase. I'll probably make the roof out of laminated balsa, covered in cartridge paper and stiffened up with superglue (somewhat akin to a Jenkinson method, I think) I'm actually really enjoying freelance modelling. It rather heavily relies on Rule #1 (it's my railway and I'll run what I like!) But it suits my eclectic tastes. I apologise for a lack of photos as I went along. My phone is broken and it isn't easy to take progress shots without it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 Oh, and making the roof removable means that I can add/subtract figurines to the interior. I hope that I might add one of the DCC concepts "flicker free" units and add lighting to it in due course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 It's a freelanced coach, loosely based on an FR 4-wheel coach. The model scales out at 8'0" wide, and 23'0" long with a 14'0" wheelbase. Is that the one in England or the one in the Principality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 FR - Furness Railway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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