Gravy Train Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Hi good people, does anyone have any photos of Neath general west signal box? cheers Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 Hi, Just need a photo to get an idea of what it is like. cheers Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Hi, Just need a photo to get an idea of what it is like. cheers Peter The one photo I've found thus far has the box largely obscured by a Britannia in 'The Red Dragon and..'. However, the photographer has added some notes, which I quote:- '.. Neath General West Signal Box, a GWR Type 9 structure- not particularly common- which consisted of a steel frame and concrete block structure, with a rendered or panelled finish. A cheaper version of the Type 7, it did not feature the characteristic eaves brackets, and has received brick reinforcing to the locking room- probably a wartime addition.' The finish appears to be cream-painted render, rather than wood panelling. According to Cooke, the box dated to July 1929. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 24, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2013 Oh dear - my earlier post seems to have vanished. Neath General West was a standard (for its time) steel frame/rendered concrete structure with a hip roof and the only pics I can find on the net (which are distant shots) confirm this. I suspect that it was one of the larger examples of that form of construction although I think the method was similar to wood panel boxes in that the number of 'bays/frames was decided by the length of the lever frame. I don't know if it was ever painted but in its later years when I saw it (in my younger years!) it was much the same as other 'boxes of this type and had a plain aged concrete colour. There are a few illustrations of 'boxes of this type in Vaughan's 'Great Western Signalling' . Other definite examples were Wantage Road, Challow, and Ashbury Crossing while Didcot East End was not rendered so showed the concrete block jointing very clearly. Below is a rather poor quality scan of my own pics of Challow (top right) and Wantage Road (bottom) - Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 Hi Brian, Thanks for your help, I'm not sure if you intended to attach a photo or not but nothing was attached, again your help is very much Apreciated Cheers Peter Hi Mike Thanks for all your help with this query, am I right in thinking that the photos below are similar to that of Neath g w box? Again many thanks Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Hi Brian, Thanks for your help, I'm not sure if you intended to attach a photo or not but nothing was attached, again your help is very much Apreciated Cheers Peter Hi Mike Thanks for all your help with this query, am I right in thinking that the photos below are similar to that of Neath g w box? Again many thanks Peter Peter, The 'photo is in a book, called 'The Red Dragon, and other old friends' (well worth seeking out if you're modelling the area in the period 1945-62), so I couldn't attach it. Mike's photos are of similar boxes, though Neath was slightly larger, having six 'bays' of windows at the front, against five. It also had four ventilators on the roof, rather than three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 25, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2013 Hi Brian, Thanks for your help, I'm not sure if you intended to attach a photo or not but nothing was attached, again your help is very much Apreciated Cheers Peter Hi Mike Thanks for all your help with this query, am I right in thinking that the photos below are similar to that of Neath g w box? Again many thanks Peter Exactly so Peter. I have the original negatives 'somewhere' and if you wish I will try to to delve them out although they are probably Kodak Tri-X so might not be the best in the world for scanning. Although it isn't clearly labelled as such the diagram for Neath West is on the SRS site although you only get a very small version unless you buy the disc - on the other hand if you know someone who has the disc you could get full details of the lever frame (c.90 levers) and it would be relatively easy to work out some of the block shelf and I have my own pictures of standard GWR/WR block shelf arrangements and method of mounting etc if you need them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 Hi Brian, Thanks for that, and the info very helpful indeed, I really apreciate it. best Peter Hi mike, If you could scan them that would be fantastic but don't go to a lot of trouble, i do apreciate the info you have given me. best Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Hi folks Just bumping this again, struggling to get a photo Cheers Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 21, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2013 Hi folks Just bumping this again, struggling to get a photo Cheers Peter Sorry Pete - just back from a week on a ship so only just seen this post. I've plenty to do pics wise after a week at sea but will try to delve out the negs and get some better scans although it might not be for a few days I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 Hi Mike, no worries, I am just greatful for the help, I was just bumping the post baqck up as sometimes some people don't see the posts as requests are amany and so the post gets to go back a few pages so to speak. many thanks Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted September 5, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2013 There is an end view in Steam in South Wales Vol 6, plate 44 (Michael Hale, WRRC, 1999). Michael Hale may well have taken other photos. I don't know who got his collection when he died. it may have been ther WRRC but if so they are not yet available, as they are still working through the Mike Morton Lloyd collection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 Hi Corneliuslundie, I very much appreciate this lead, I will look into it, It appears very difficult indeed to find information on this box, its very strange. Again many thanks for your help Thanks Peter A L. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 12, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2013 Peter, http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/wpw029804?search=neath&ref=4 You have to register to zoom in - but its free and well worthwhile. I know it's not great but it's better than nowt. All - The britainfromabove site is well worth visiting, and joining. I spend many a happy time wandering aimlessly around the North West labelling signal boxes ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Hi Dave, cheers for that, most appreciated, its incredible that a box of this size can prove to be elusive with regard to photos :-) cheers Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Hi Folks, I'm still struggling to find a suitable photo of this signal box, usually have to dig around quite a bit for info but this one looks like its got me beat this time :-) cheers Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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