Londontram Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Thank you, coping from photo's not as good as Digi shots unfortunately. Gordon W Don't be to hard on your self they looked pretty good to me, thanks for posting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 That looks like an Austin grille to me. IIRC the Pug didn't have extensions to incorporate the indicators. The peaked "pedestrian cutter" headlamp cowls also look more BMC than Peugeot. However, I have no familiarity with Peugeot 404s supplied anywhere other than the UK. Interedsting if it is an Oxbridge though. I don't think even Australia got a ute version of that shell, and we got pretty much everything else with the back cut off at one time or another. A search for photos of 404s shows that, apart from the convertible, they weren't fitted with quarterlights. So the pickup probably isn't a Peugeot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted April 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2015 This is one of the few cars that looks, at first sight, as if it has four doors, but in fact has only two! Good job too I put mine sideways into the armco on a 90 degree left bend chipped the varnish I was doing 60mph when I went into the bend and the brakes were not good. FHL 7 where are you now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Nipped down to the Smoke for another Sweeney related meet up yesterday, a good turn out in old car terms with three Mk1 Granadas and a very rare Vauxhaul VX4/90... We parked up to recce a filming location from the episode 'Stoppo Driver' (the one where the S-Type Jag drives through a conveniently placed pile of empty cardboard boxes) and just along the road was this rather sad looking 1966 Mk1 Austin Mini 850, as decrepid as it looks though, it's still taxed until the end of the month...! I assume the bicycle is used to tow start the Mini ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 NWC301P as used in series 7 I believe, a 3litre GL, S, or slightly earlier Consul GT would be very high on my "lets spend the pension pot" wish list. Although I would be tempted to go left field and try to pick up a German spec Mk1 or 2 2door saloon, the 2 lt cars are a small V6 based on the Cologne engine . If you were really desperate you could have a 1700 V4, an engine which Ford dropped in the UK with the death of the Corsair(early Transits got it) I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Never mind towing the Mini... what the Hell is the Mini chained to...??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 ..... If you were really desperate you could have a 1700 V4, an engine which Ford dropped in the UK with the death of the Corsair(early Transits got it) I think. The 2-litre V4 was also used for Transits as well, I think. It was certainly used as an engine conversion for a large number of NSU Ro80s when the original Wankel went south. Never mind towing the Mini... what the Hell is the Mini chained to...??? Appears to be some sort of boat/trailer....and that's missing its wheels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) The V4 was apparently developed for the Transit to fit into the short front end. It was subsequently used in various other Ford vehicles. It suffered from a variety of problems especially head gasket failure owing to the narrow lands between water passages, which were later partially resolved with a better gasket design. Those of us that work in Ford's Service Division at the time regarded it with great distrust. Edited April 21, 2015 by LNWRmodeller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) NWC301P as used in series 7 I believe, a 3litre GL, S, or slightly earlier Consul GT would be very high on my "lets spend the pension pot" wish list. Although I would be tempted to go left field and try to pick up a German spec Mk1 or 2 2door saloon, the 2 lt cars are a small V6 based on the Cologne engine . If you were really desperate you could have a 1700 V4, an engine which Ford dropped in the UK with the death of the Corsair(early Transits got it) I think. Series 7 Bob...? Been on the sauce Guvnor...? There were only ever four series! The silver Granada in the pic isn't actually the real 'NWC 301P' form the Sweeney but a near identical car with false plates attached for the photos (the owner has trade plates for legality). It is in itself a beautiful example of the 3-litre Mk1 as the previous owner spent an absolute fortune restoring it, probably far more than the car is worth, but it was money well spent. The current owner also owns one of the later 'facelift' Granadas from the show, 'RHJ 997R' and I think it is next in line for restoration. Another Sweeney forum member owns the genuine 3-litre Consul GT 'NHK 295M' which is getting closer to being finished (he's owned it since 1988). There is another Mk1 Granada 'doing the rounds' at car shows wearing fake 'NHK...' plates purporting to be the real McCoy but alas it is not the car from the show, nor is it 'the long lost second stunt vehicle' as the owner would like everyone to think. Edited April 21, 2015 by Rugd1022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 The V4 was apparently developed for the Transit to fit into the short front end. To fit the inline 4 diesel they gave the Transit a pig snout which I quite liked. Not sure why they just didn't do that to start with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 The V4 was apparently developed for the Transit to fit into the short front end. It was subsequently used in various other Ford vehicles. It suffered from a variety of problems especially head gasket failure owing to the narrow lands between water passages, which were later partially resolved with a better gasket design. Those of us that work in Ford's Service Division at the time regarded it with great distrust. Wasn't there another V4 for the Taunus, which was apparently somewhat better built? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Because it was fugly Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr2 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) Never mind towing the Mini... what the Hell is the Mini chained to...??? Isn't it the pushbike on the pavement that is actually chained to the Mini's 'towbar'? If that Mini is sound, the pushbike's owner could return to find it & the Mini gone, when somone with a flatbed came & removed the latter for 'safe keeping'.....!!! (Mini's now seem to be getting nearly as popular as classic Fords with the criminal fraternity Regan & Carter did their best to get rid of!) Edited April 21, 2015 by keefr2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Dread Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 A search for photos of 404s shows that, apart from the convertible, they weren't fitted with quarterlights. So the pickup probably isn't a Peugeot. Not wishing to cause an international incident and not being able to enlarge the photo to show any more than what looks like a "bell" shaped design on the grill badge, I will concede my photograph is most probably that of an Austin. However, this is definitely a Morris Minor Traveller hiding under a roadside stall! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted April 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2015 Wasn't there another V4 for the Taunus, which was apparently somewhat better built? Possible the same one as fitted to German spec Mk1 Capris which had 1300, 1500, and 1700 V4s (along with 2000, 2300 and 2600 V6s). Presumably these had a family resemblance to the Cologne V6 (as used in the later 2.8i) in the same way that the English V4s were related to the Essex V6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 My heighbour had a 2000E Corsair-similar spec to 1600E Cortina. Lovely car, and the first time I'd ever been in an automatic. Would have been 69-70ish? Ed 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (Mini's now seem to be getting nearly as popular as classic Fords with the criminal fraternity Regan & Carter did their best to get rid of!) I'm surprised it still has all the chrome on it. I moved to a new area and the grille on my Mk1 lasted a whole two days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I understand from a Fordophile friend that the earlier Corsairs had straight fours and are considered by the cognoscenti to be "better". For some reason Ford included the Consul name on Cortinas, Corsairs and Capris. Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Thanks for the info regarding NWC301P, I notice that NWC300P also appeared on a white Cortina and that several Sweeney cars had an NHK suffix WC and HK both being Chelmsford codes . I assume that Chelmsford would quite possible be close to Dagenham . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Dread Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I understand from a Fordophile friend that the earlier Corsairs had straight fours and are considered by the cognoscenti to be "better". For some reason Ford included the Consul name on Cortinas, Corsairs and Capris. Ed My late father had a driving school business and I took my test in 1969 in his straight four Corsair. I passed by the way, failing was not an option with him! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Well I couldn't resist, anyone recognise the car with the wheel missing in the second picture. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted April 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2015 A Jowett? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Armstrong Siddeley Hurricane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr2 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Well I couldn't resist, anyone recognise the car with the wheel missing in the second picture. No, but there's a lovely Daytona Yellow Mk1 Escort Mex (I think, could be a late 1300 Sport or early RS2?) in the background!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitchinLoco Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Couple of Standards and Austin's hope of interest? Gordon W 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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