RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 11, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2018 The problem with camper vans is condensation especially in spring and autumn with cooler nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) Early 2CV, plus Ami 6 Ami 8 in need of sympathetic panel-beating..... ...and a couple of "ordinary" DSs: The problem with camper vans is condensation especially in spring and autumn with cooler nights. Edited September 12, 2018 by Horsetan 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 This was in Nottingham station car park at 03.45 this morning: 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) DSCF3826.JPG Well now we've seen someone polishing a turd (not the car, just the bodywork!!) Edited September 12, 2018 by Hobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Well now we've seen someone polishing a turd (not the car, just the bodywork!!) To be honest, the Ami 6 has always looked a bit awkward to my eyes. It has a recognisable "face", no doubt about that, but Citroen didn't think that its doors were fit to have anything other than sliding windows, which didn't really do its looks any favours. Still, with almost 2 million of the things built, people clearly liked them enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Oh I don't know, it's not that bad! The front headlights do look out of all proportion to the size of the car, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejstubbs Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 For those who didn't get to the Goodwood Revival this year, there is a "live" show and highlights programmes currently available on the ITV Hub: https://www.itv.com/hub/goodwood-revival/1a8806a0014 Some nice machinery on display, and some spirited racing. I am always impressed by the guys who go out on the track and give it a damn good go in cars worth almost as much as my house! Re: Citroens, my BiL had a CX Safari for a while and we shared the driving once on a trip from London to deepest Herefordshire. I still remember at the end my shift we pulled in to a Little Chef, found a space in the car park and when I looked behind to reverse in I thought I was going to need binoculars to see to the back of the car! Very comfortable and relaxing to drive, though - you didn't really notice the size until you had to manoeuvre the thing, and even then it was easier than it looked. I had a BX GTi for a few years - the one with the plastic bonnet. It generally did its job well, apart from the time when it emptied its auto box along the A6 - the French one - during a heatwave. The rental car that Citroen fixed me up with so that I could get to a ferry had no aircon, so I drove most of the rest of the way to Calais with all the windows down... As well as the CX my BiL also had a Visa Diesel for a while (which we called the Wiesel). This was in the days when a diesel was just a diesel - none of your fancy-pants turbo charging. On Herefordshire and Gloucestershire A roads the basic technique was to wind it up to 50-60mph and drive cannily to conserve speed, because if you had to slow down it took a wee while to get it back again. Helpfully, it went round corners pretty well, so as long as the sight lines were good - and with a bit of concentration and knowledge of the road - you could keep it trolling along quite happily. Am I correct in remembering that Visas had that coke can gizmo sticking out of the dash next to the wheel where some of the auxiliary controls lived? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 To be honest, the Ami 6 has always looked a bit awkward to my eyes. It has a recognisable "face", no doubt about that, but Citroen didn't think that its doors were fit to have anything other than sliding windows, which didn't really do its looks any favours. Still, with almost 2 million of the things built, people clearly liked them enough. By coincidence this popped up elsewhere this afternoon... I've no idea what the differences are between the 6 and the 8! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 ….I've no idea what the differences are between the 6 and the 8! Fastback shape on the "8", and slightly different front door window arrangement. The Ami gave way to the Visa which looked a lot less awkward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Ami 8 could also be had with the flat-4 1100cc engine from the Citroen GS. That would have been a pokey wee automobile? What I didn't realise was, the Ami had a 17 year production run, and 1.8 million of them were made. I like them....less austere than the duck shoveler, yet very quirky in a 'french' manner. They also shared their headlights with the Maserati 5000....[to be fair, the rectangular-ish headlights were a Hella innovation...flogged to a few car manufacturers....also upsetting our American cuzzins....who righteously believed, lamps should only be round!] I'd have an Ami of either engine willingly on my driveway.....at least I'd be able to find it in Tesco's car park!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 By coincidence this popped up elsewhere this afternoon... FB CITROEN AMI.jpg I've no idea what the differences are between the 6 and the 8! With all these ancient adverts, I often wonder whether any of our newer generations recognise 'Grandma?' 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Now for some CXs from Saturday: None of the Saturday CXs were Series 1s - the joke is that if rain is likely, then they don't come to shows because, being Series 1, they rust quicker..... 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) had a Visa Diesel for a while (which we called the Wiesel). This was in the days when a diesel was just a diesel - none of your fancy-pants turbo charging. On Herefordshire and Gloucestershire A roads the basic technique was to wind it up to 50-60mph and drive cannily to conserve speed, because if you had to slow down it took a wee while to get it back again. I assume that was the 1.4? I had it in a Metro and TBH never found it as gutless as you or others seem to think it is... Having said that I'd driven diesels for many years by then so knew how to get the best out of them... I always used to get p'd off with Clarkson and friends who used to expect a diesel to drive the same way as a petrol and moan about it when they couldn't get it to perform the way it would if driven properly... Having said that if you think that engine was bad try driving a Nissan Micra 1.0 auto (or come to that, manual), that gives you the true meaning of gutless... Edited September 13, 2018 by Hobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejstubbs Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I didn't say the engine was bad, I said the car needed a different driving technique. Which seems to be what you're saying as well. Seems to me that we're in agreement. Which is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Sort of... Just the way I read your post, I never felt that had to "wind it up" which would indicate it was gutless, up to 40 or 50 it was comparable with all the other similar petrol powered small hatchbacks around at the time and better than some (i.e. that Micra!)... Having said that I've never gone in for how fast my car will get to 60 from rest, if I wanted a racing car I'd go and race on the track rather than the road (which is what I did!), but many people seem obsessed with how fast cars will go when in reality its a waste of time worrying for most drivers in the UK as we can't use all that power! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 .....many people seem obsessed with how fast cars will go when in reality its a waste of time worrying for most drivers in the UK as we can't use all that power! Probably the important factor is the "in gear" time - i.e. the time taken from one given speed to accelerate to another speed point without necessarily having to change down to do it. That's where the diesels/turbo-diesels tended to be superior to petrol cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickstart Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Probably the important factor is the "in gear" time - i.e. the time taken from one given speed to accelerate to another speed point without necessarily having to change down to do it. That's where the diesels/turbo-diesels tended to be superior to petrol cars. Changing down is part of the fun. All the best Katy (whose formative years on the road involved quite a lot of 2 stroke bikes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Changing down is part of the fun..... An opportunity absent in an electric car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Gearchanging manually...such a waste of time [as in one's life-time?]....all that time spent free-wheeling, instead of accelerating. It's a thing one realises as an older driver.....? AS a one-time bus driver with a hirsute backside....driving old Bristols or AECs, etc...with straight-cut gearboxes, which required double de-clutching......I once worked out how many gearchanges I did over an 8 hour shift, in town. And got a headache as a result. {Taking an average 30 minute journey time out...30 minutes back....with maybe something like, for example, say...15 stops each way? Just for an example...sometimes more, sometimes less... That would be, 2 gearchanges down [bristols must not be brought to a halt in top gear]......maybe 3 gearchanges up.....that's approximately 150 gear changes each hour....over an 8 hour shift,that's...oooh.....1200 gearchanges....6 day week, 48 weeks a year....b'y 'ell!!] I always felt entitled to crunch the odd gearchange now & then!!! I couldn't wait to get into a semi auto bus, or even, an auto! I find the old Mustang, with its 3 speed auto box, a delight to drive around.....and even if it is 50 years old...with the smallest engine Ford USA then used [3.3 litres, even so].....Taking off at roundabouts is pure heaven......as soon as I decide to go, it's gone....none of this malarkey about finding clutch bite, or fiddling around changing gears half way round....it purely a case of, stamping on the gas, and go! I've usually taken my exit a noticeable amount of time before an AUdi driver next to me has even translated their brain's decision to 'go'...into actual movement of the car..... An auto box can even be controlled, by using the kick down or 'hold' positions on the gear lever. Plus...[in a heavy vehicle, especially a diseasle,] the auto box will never allow the driver to make either of the two classic mistakes drivers in manual transmission vehicles make, when using the gearbox. [too low a gear for too high a road speed....best way to get a bus to stand on its nose-end?]....or too high a gear, for too low a road speed [engine struggling to even keep going...slogging, in other words] Even the Dellow...which is currently on a 3 speed Ford box with standard 10HP ratios.....will set off in 2nd, then stay in top even down to tickover.....regardless. {Mind, changing gear is somewhat awkward..imagine being in a yoga class, and having to use one's left leg, with someone stood in the way?}...It came to me with a 3 speed Ford box with Buckler D-type ratios....Buckler realised that, in a lightweight car, the driver wouldn't use first gear much..so he upped the ratios of 1st & 2nd gear, to roughly correspond to where 2nd & 3rd would be, in a 4 speed box.....top being direct in any event. Bloody useless when trialling!! But, great fun when road driving.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owd Bob Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 By coincidence this popped up elsewhere this afternoon... FB CITROEN AMI.jpg I've no idea what the differences are between the 6 and the 8! They are both called Aimi but the skirt is 2" shorter on the other model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 A photo from last Sundays classic car meet at the Martlesham Heath Aviation Society Museum. I had been to a SVEC organised show at Bredfield the previous day, where several of the same cars appeared. They included a Mk3 Zodiac, several Vauxhall Velox PA's and the Yellow/White Lotus Elan. We arrived after visiting the Woodbridge Maritime event, so my own MGB is in the public car park. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 An opportunity absent in an electric car. More than made up for by instant throttle response and boat loads of torque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickstart Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 An opportunity absent in an electric car. One reason they are not on my shopping list. I enjoy changing gear. Double declutching is part of the fun. Torque dropping off as speed rise is frustrating. Torque increasing with revs, and then when it drops being able to select another gear and ride the torque coming in is great. Lazy auto really doesn’t appeal. All the best Katy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 ….Lazy auto really doesn’t appeal. Some old cars are suited to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickstart Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Some old cars are suited to it. Maybe, but they don’t appeal to me. Worst car I ever drove was a large engined auto. Although part of that was a mismatch between the very lazy engine and a hyperactive 4 speed auto box. All the best Katy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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