micknich2003 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 A long time since I have posted, possibly my latest project may be of interest. Ex Ne Region all metal and welded bracket signal. I have several to make, so I thought worthwhile to spend a bit of time and make proper "Tooling". Photo's 1 & 2 show the assembly jig. This is a piece of hard plastic as used for electrical control panels etc, it is first marked out and then drilled 1mm for suitable spacing pegs. The plates are put in first (10tho N/S) and them the 1mm brass angles are soldered in place, this is done twice to make a "Back" and "Front". The trimmers are 3/32ins square tube slit lenghwise and filed to correct profile. Decking boards are milled brass strip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O. Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Well thought-through for mass production. Looks very robust in brass. Cheers, Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Dear Steve, thanks for the kind words. Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Good idea Mick! I was thinking of doing something similar in 7mm scale for the LMS welded stem posts. JF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Dear John, should be a very simple job in 7mm scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Richard, thanks for the additional drawings. Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Do you want them emailed directly? I'm going to have my hands in and about several of these signals tomorrow that are laying down. Any photo's required? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Dear Richard, yes, please send me the drawings. Any close up photo's you can get are of interest. Many Thanks, Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I've got three with tubular dolls and one with wood. I suspect the latter is a real oldie. Got a concrete stem with wooden doll too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 I've got three with tubular dolls and one with wood. I suspect the latter is a real oldie. Got a concrete stem with wooden doll too. The early ones had timber dolls, I don't know if originaly specified as such, or the provision was owing to a post war shortage of tubes. I have seen a photo of one "Plate and Angle" bracket with wooden dolls and LOWER Quadrant arms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 A couple of shots of the doll fixing collar casting. (Item 23) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Thanks for the photo's all interesting. By the way, some of these early signals had the lower Distant arms at 7ft spacing, soon to become the standard 5ft 6ins, and then increased to 6ft c1953. Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Your model looks superb Mick. I guess by the time i've finished making my 'kits' i'll wish i'd chosen a smaller scale. We do have a rail mounted ten ton crane to help though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Your model looks superb Mick. I guess by the time i've finished making my 'kits' i'll wish i'd chosen a smaller scale. We do have a rail mounted ten ton crane to help though. Apart from the weight full size must be easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Apart from the weight full size must be easier. The crane will only be able to lift it into final position. I bet we'll end up man handling all the bit together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I'm aiming for something like this for the south end of the platforms at Dereham.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/90490950@N03/8630140339/in/photolist-e9BJ46-e9Hpsf-e9BJ9B-e9HpxL-aB1pzP-bgeCYv-dwCopc-dwHU6L-dwHUbq-dJSujc-7UMzAv-e5MVw7-d1XiiU-9xoypd-bm7MqV-bm7KrM-9u4oSP-9ARQa6-9AUxBL-9AUKY9-9AUGPf-9AULUo-9AUGv5-9ARTnP-9ARSUx-9AS9NF-bgeHRn-9q5mo2-bgeJSM-8XBUKk-c3cb53-dixfGB-bgeJpi-abwHPu-abwHZu-9YWund-aYBCiX-9h5MRV-dmssKx-dj4zG9-9WqYaF-9WFEMX-dj4AWV-dBtGyT-bAY8vf-cPk6QW-cPk7h5-cPk73A-cPk78q-cPk6TS-cPk6ZA There will be no discs or route indicators and the left hand doll be further to the left than the one in the picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 I'm aiming for something like this for the south end of the platforms at Dereham.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/90490950@N03/8630140339/in/photolist-e9BJ46-e9Hpsf-e9BJ9B-e9HpxL-aB1pzP-bgeCYv-dwCopc-dwHU6L-dwHUbq-dJSujc-7UMzAv-e5MVw7-d1XiiU-9xoypd-bm7MqV-bm7KrM-9u4oSP-9ARQa6-9AUxBL-9AUKY9-9AUGPf-9AULUo-9AUGv5-9ARTnP-9ARSUx-9AS9NF-bgeHRn-9q5mo2-bgeJSM-8XBUKk-c3cb53-dixfGB-bgeJpi-abwHPu-abwHZu-9YWund-aYBCiX-9h5MRV-dmssKx-dj4zG9-9WqYaF-9WFEMX-dj4AWV-dBtGyT-bAY8vf-cPk6QW-cPk7h5-cPk73A-cPk78q-cPk6TS-cPk6ZA There will be no discs or route indicators and the left hand doll be further to the left than the one in the picture. Very nice picture. On the North Eastern Region "Balanced Brackets" were rare or unknown, I certainly, can't think of any in the Hull area, though no doubt, someone will prove me wrong. There were also several detail differences between the two regions. Will you be personaly be digging the hole when you come to "Plant your Kit of Parts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Unfortunately i have a reputation to live up to when it comes to holes... Yes i will be digging the whole hole. It should be just over six feet deep. Heres a brutally and crudely altered photo of what we want.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Unfortunately i have a reputation to live up to when it comes to holes... Yes i will be digging the whole hole. It should be just over six feet deep. Heres a brutally and crudely altered photo of what we want.. Derham platform starters.jpg Will look nice when completed and erected.. I was always fasinated by the local S&T oldhands, and the tales they told me, of erecting signals and telegraph poles with little more then a big hole, a plank and a rope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 My gang foreman used to tell of digging an old GN bracket out and dropping a new welded steel bracket in on a Saturday night shift. Other than the Hitchin Pway crane to do the lifting everything else was done by hand and it would be working by the Sunday morning. Straight posts were done entirely by hand. I've dug out quite a few straight posts in my time (and two brackets) and unfortunately i usually get hunted down to lead such jobs. No chance of ducking out in that situation. The end result when putting them up is quite rewarding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 With the 1mm angle diagonals added, the model is now begining to look like a signal. Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 A couple of shots of the doll fixing collar casting. (Item 23) DSC05102.JPG DSC05104.jpg they look identical to the LMS ones:)JF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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micknich2003 Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 Attached the sighting plan for the Albert Dock signal. Either wood or tubes are specified for the dolls, must have been what was available early post war. Note also, "Short" arms are specified, why, I don't know. Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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