Old Tearaway Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I normally work on classic motorcycles and a lot of interchanageability between models is very common even with the early Japanese bikes, usually becuse of sharing common suppliers or to reduce the quanity of differing parts to do the exact same job on various models. That's preety much why motorcycle breakers yards flourished back in the 1970's and 1980's as cannabalising one model could furnish parts for a totally different model. I do wonder how many Plunger and Roller Princesses were converted to scale metal wheels and pickups with aftermarket parts or modified to tender pickup with a aftermarket or rival brand tender?? Unless moving at a reasonable pace, point frogs are a problem for plungers and rollers which is probally why the pre-1958 Universal track had the swinging bridge type switch rails to avoid having a frog. Like model T-Fords, once there were so many that nobody bothered much with them. Now there are very few and suddenly people want them, paying good money as well.. Triang Rovex sold off their old stock of Zenith motors as the Mark.12. for kit builders. Zenith also made the starter motors for Rolls Royce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I normally work on classic motorcycles and a lot of interchanageability between models is very common even with the early Japanese bikes, usually becuse of sharing common suppliers or to reduce the quanity of differing parts to do the exact same job on various models. That's preety much why motorcycle breakers yards flourished back in the 1970's and 1980's as cannabalising one model could furnish parts for a totally different model. I do wonder how many Plunger and Roller Princesses were converted to scale metal wheels and pickups with aftermarket parts or modified to tender pickup with a aftermarket or rival brand tender?? Unless moving at a reasonable pace, point frogs are a problem for plungers and rollers which is probally why the pre-1958 Universal track had the swinging bridge type switch rails to avoid having a frog. Like model T-Fords, once there were so many that nobody bothered much with them. Now there are very few and suddenly people want them, paying good money as well.. Triang Rovex sold off their old stock of Zenith motors as the Mark.12. for kit builders. Zenith also made the starter motors for Rolls Royce. Tri-ang did market a conversion kit to convert a Plunger loco to metal wheels and wiper pick up....I have a contents list from a Dealer....possibly only available to dealers. I am working on making a converted loco, as I have the parts.... Points... The MK1 Tri-ang Railways Points for Universal ("Standard") track did have frogs, of a kind, as part of the switch rails casting! Earlier type below the later type. (Later type has wider casting for switch rails, and internal diffeences.) The MK2 points had the whole switch rails section pivot...but no frog/crossing... MK2a points were made using parts to the same design as Series 3 Points...switch rails and plastic frog moulding. The "Standard" Track points all used the same R. numbers, just to confuse things! R.100 Diamond Crossing. R.101 Left Hand. Hand Operated. R.201 Left Hand. Electric Operated. R.102 Right Hand. Hand Operated R.202 Right Hand. Electric Operated Mk 1 Points are the ones with an extension to the base with the operating lever (Hand Operated) or a dummy motor (Electric Points 1955. Replaced by Mk2 Points after about 6 Months!). There are two main variations of Mk1, the width of the switch rails / frog casting varies. Early (1953-1955) ones have narrow castings, and steel base plates. Later (1956) ones have wider castings and steel or aluminium baseplates. (Underneath, there is differences in the "switch" under the frog. There is a later version, with a chrome rivet instead of a screw holding the lever cam in place) Mk2 Points (Polystyrene Plastic. 1957-1959) have the Slider control to one side. The switch rails have no frog, and are a solid casting. These have the facility to "retro-fit" a point motor solenoid, which was sold as X.97. The "tongues" are replaceable. Mk2A Points (Polystyrene Plastic. 1960-1962) also have the Slider control to one side. The switch rails and frog are the same pattern as Series 3 Points. These also have the facility to "retro-fit" a point motor solenoid, which was sold as X.97. The "tongues" are replaceable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Just spotted on E-Bay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rovex-train-set-pre-triang-RARE/321933660986?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3D44b0ca76dd4b4eb38b0eb962b32a9d94%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D111814357195&autorefresh=true A complete pre-Triang Rovex trainset..... best sit down before checking the price though..... I already have 3 of the locos and the coaches so I'm not actually interested in these parts, however the track does interest me plus the rarest of rare Triang items, the R46 and R47 Rovex Series 1 to Triang Universal Track (Series 2) converter pieces. Has anybody ever seen these pieces outside of a book?? At last... Photos of the Converter Rails! Earlier version in Silver Plastic (With added aluminium!) Later made in Grey Plastic. (Now sold as a pair, 1 R.98 and 1 R.99. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I've still got a couple of the early points but the plastic has shrunk making the gauge rather less than 16.5mm! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy brad Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I have 3 plunger princess loco's but i have one without coupling to tender from the loco. and the other two have different ones and i would like to know what is correct so i can locate or make one from the patterns i have on my engines. if anyone is able could they post pictures close up's if possible including the rear bogie andy brad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy brad Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 i have spent a couple of hours repairing and cleaning the box lid i just love the art work it just takes me back in time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Interesting smokebox number for a Princess.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Hmm. 6302.... Possibly a numerical anagram of 6203? "Princess Margaret Rose". An old Tri-ang Hornby model could have been "Princesss Margate Rose"? Sorry....that just popped into my head while typing the real name! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 ...could have been "Princesss...... Yesss...my pressciousss.... :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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