RMweb Premium Hippo Posted December 30, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 30, 2013 Well I started this on Christmas eve after buying a Hornby Sentinel. I took my inspiration from here http://www.carendt.com/scrapbook/page93/index.html (First one down 'Little End Yard') Although I have put 2 points not 1. Buildings will probably end up being Scalescenes as they are cheap. I'm not sure what to call it yet, although 'Sentinel Lane' or 'Wood Works' (using my surname of Wood) seems to be a favorite in our household. Size is 1150x200mm, the track is Peco code 75. The points are medium elctrofrogs modified to improve running, powered by Seep point motors, and every last piece of track has its own power feed to try and get reliable running. When I finally finish laying the track. I'm not sure yet if I'm going DCC as I have a full Gaugemaster prodigy set in the loft, although I may just go for plain old DC. Thanks for looking Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twright Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Looks good. I look forward to this progressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cklammer Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 You could have an inglenook with two turnouts - might be worth thinking about .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted December 30, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 30, 2013 Can you tell me what you have done to the points please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted December 30, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 30, 2013 Hi Mick its been covered many times on here before, and its more of a personal thing. Check out this link http://www.mrol.com.au/Articles/Electrical/LiveFrogWiring.aspx Cheers Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The low-relief factory buildings... Where did you get them/How did you make them? They are exactly what I am looking for on a layout project of my own! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted December 31, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2013 Hi Martin, Its nothing special its one side of http://scalescenes.com/products/R021b-North-Light-Engine-Shed hope that helps Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILikeTrainsTom Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Looks really good- this will look great when finished! Well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted January 1, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2014 Well new years eve and a few more hours this afternoon have seen the track laying and wiring finished for now. What a mission for such a small layout. Most of it being my own fault, I really wanted droppers on every piece of track to help with reliable running. I also had trouble with the point motors, the trouble being I lost the instructions months ago and proceeded to wire them up wrong and then spend a an hour trying to work out what was wrong... Doh. A quick google and all was sorted. I also had trouble with one of the two frogs, I had used a second hand point from my stash and although it looked ok I couldn't work out why the frog wasn't getting power I tried everything as by this stage it was all glued down. As a last resort I ripped it up to find the original wire fitted by Peco for the frog had come un-soldered. For the time being I will just control it with a basic DC Bachmann controller, and after asking elsewhere about 16V ac power supply, I found in my loft an old Graham Farish controller with a 15V ac output, on its own it wasn't enough to fire the Seeps but with a CDU it all works fine. Pictures to follow later Cheers Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted January 1, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2014 Here's the pics The wiring looks ok, but I may have nightmares about soldering irons tonight The track looks alright, I only stuck it down with Pva. Running in my little Sentinel, the reason for building this plank Thanks for looking Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corax67 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 That looks like a bit of fun Owen, it will be great to see how it develops with the addition of scenery if you decide to go down that route. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted January 3, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 3, 2014 Well I spent this evening playing with couplings, specifically the staple type and got no where. I couldn't get them to reliably work. So next phase is to try and get hold of some Kadee's to try. Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tel2010 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Well I spent this evening playing with couplings, specifically the staple type and got no where. I couldn't get them to reliably work. So next phase is to try and get hold of some Kadee's to try. Owen Hi Owen im using the Kirby (staple method)works ok on my boxfile layout.What i found i had to do was bend end that hung down sideways 90 degrees for it to work over small neodymium magnets sunk under track..Im only useing one hook each end of stock,as they wont be turned.Also using Bachman couplers as they are not magnetic. Hope this helps Tel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted January 4, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2014 Hi Tel, Thats a great box file layout. Have you bedded the magnets into the concrete, as one of the main problems I had has I want the uncoupling to happen on a flush floor, and by setting the magnets just below rail height, the staple pulled down but not enough to uncouple. Thanks Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tel2010 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Hi Tel, Thats a great box file layout. Have you bedded the magnets into the concrete, as one of the main problems I had has I want the uncoupling to happen on a flush floor, and by setting the magnets just below rail height, the staple pulled down but not enough to uncouple. Thanks Owen Hi Owen Thank you Yes the magnets are below the concrete and between sleepers at front and in fiddle yard.I think if doing it now would use larger in size magnets like what would be in a cupboard lock to have a bigger area to pull couplings down,though would have to go under track.With ones between sleepers that im using even though powerful you have to shunt slowly or you pass magnet before anything happens.Try to avoid curves too.with such a small area its also why im only having coupling on one end of wagon,hoop on other,so only have one staple working at a time. What i did to get working i build a test bit of wood with track on and magnet under and adjusted stapels til they worked. Tel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted January 5, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2014 Well I had another go with the Staples today and it went better, but still not as good as I had hoped.So I have bittern the bullet and ordered some Kadee's to try . So until they arrive everything with the track is on hold, as if I chose them then I will have to fit magnets in different places to where i have temporarily got them. I also built this for the centre of the back scene, its not finished yet, but I think it looks ok. I will mount it directly to the back sheet of plywood when its finished. I've also got a knightwing pipe pack to help disguise the joins in it Cheers Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I like the look of your layout Hippo, I have a question about your point operation, are they electofrog points and have you modified them for dcc in any way? I only ask as I had a loco short by (I think) touching the other switch rail on a pair of unmodified points and wondered how to get round the problem? I like the scalescenes buildings as well ! Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Just read the thread properly and seen the link about the points!!!! think that answers my questrion. Ta! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted January 5, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2014 Hi Steve I used to be a Romford boy, well Collier-Row anyway. Yep they are modified, not just for DCC though, everywhere suggests its just best practise http://www.wiringfordcc.com/switches_peco.htm Thats a good link to use. Good luck Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Holmes Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Well I had another go with the Staples today and it went better, but still not as good as I had hoped.So I have bittern the bullet and ordered some Kadee's to try . So until they arrive everything with the track is on hold, as if I chose them then I will have to fit magnets in different places to where i have temporarily got them. I also built this for the centre of the back scene, its not finished yet, but I think it looks ok. I will mount it directly to the back sheet of plywood when its finished. I've also got a knightwing pipe pack to help disguise the joins in it P1.jpg P2.jpg Cheers Owen OK, I really like the size of the HUGE structure. It's not often that people will model properly overpowering industrial buildings. Top marks for that! Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Hippo, do the point motors change polarity of the frog or do you have a separate switch? I've seen lot's of different ways to do it but none that I find easy! Also what part of Collier Row from? I live at the end of Clockhouse Lane not far from the pinewoods pub, it's a small world! Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted January 6, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2014 Hi Steve I used Seep PM1's with built in accessory switches. They were a right to seep up though. The wiring was a pain in the proverbial but I just worked through it systematically and got there in the end. I use Peco studs and probe just on the corner of the board. I used to go to Clockhouse School, and cycle down Kings Hill looking out over London. I lived in Carter Close, so opposite end of Carter drive to you, my parents still live there. Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I know Kingshill well, I used to run up and down it when I was a bit younger!! Still drive over there and look at what is a fantastic view of the city!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted January 8, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 8, 2014 Not got a lot done this last few nights. However my Kadee's turned up today so i have been having a play. They seem to work well so I have glued the magnets down and can crack on finishing off the track work. Cheers Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Looks great, and I look forward to seeing this progress! One question though, how did you assemble the frames for the baseboards? I.e Nails, screws..etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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