RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted January 29, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2014 Hi, Over the years you have all been really helpful in identifying quite a number of unidentified negatives within my collection. I now have some more mysteries I am hoping might ring a bell with someone. First a station, which to me at least has a LNWR feel, but is it. The sign at the end of the platform says British Transport commision so no help there. http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/11798403364/ Next 69163 on a special in April 1961, one negative was at Armadale, but where is this http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/11798673246/ Next one that is one that has been very difficult, thoughts have been round Colnel Stephens and the Caledonian railway, but it really is not giving up its location.http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/6955185384/in/set-72157627166784504 One of my earlier ones is of LSWR 755, I think it might be round Eastleigh / Southampton? http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/7139720507/in/set-72157627166784504 and this may be at the same location http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/6990507508/in/set-72157627166784504 Next a GNR 4-4-2 leaving somewhere with distinctive signals in the background http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/8320728685/in/set-72157627166784504 A LNWR loco arriving at a station, but where is anyones guess at the moment http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/8322245094/in/set-72157627166784504 Possibly a SER station ????? http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/8750381704/in/set-72157627166784504 A station of which even identifying which company has so far not been possible http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/8395910168/in/set-72157627166784504/ And finally mystery signal box from the turn of the last century, thought to be either SER or LCDR of Stevens design http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/8750381598/in/set-72157627166784504 Any help in identifying the locations or any information would really be appreciated. However even if you don't know where they are I hope you enjoy looking at them. There are still lots more unidentified negatives to come. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted January 29, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2014 The shot of LSWR No 718 appears to be at Southampton, just east of the original site of Southampton Blechynden, later West, station. By the time the loco was built the new West station was in use, but the old station was still in situ. The house behind the loco is a good match for Alessandro House, which appears in an early photo (Moody, Southampton's Railways, p8). The photo of 755 isn't Southampton, the layout and signal box are wrong. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 The GN Atlantic, looks possibly Lincolnshire to me. Flat ground pretty much all around, maybe Spalding? Pure guesswork I must admit though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catkins Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I can't give you any specific locations, but I have a few ideas. On the following - First a station, which to me at least has a LNWR feel, but is it. The sign at the end of the platform says British Transport commision so no help there. http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/11798403364/ Next a GNR 4-4-2 leaving somewhere with distinctive signals in the background http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/8320728685/in/set-72157627166784504 A station of which even identifying which company has so far not been possible http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/8395910168/in/set-72157627166784504/ Duncan I am tempted to say that the first station could be a former LNWR station in the Welsh Valleys / Swansea area. I do like the theory of the GNR Atlantic being somewhere around Spalding, possibly the south side on the Peterborough line, however I think that it is equally possible to be in the Witham Valley to the East of Lincoln, or near Rossington and Doncaster, or even somewhere on the outskirts of Hull, now I think about it. As for the un-identified station, my first thought was Carnforth WCML, but I also considered somewhere in the Nottinghamshire / South Yorkshire coalfield - I can't quite recall what Shirebrook Station looked like. I'm sorry that I can't be any more specific. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted January 29, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2014 Thanks for the comments so far. Thanks for giving 718 at Southampton, my thoughts on 755 was becuase of the headcode, so if its not in the Southampton area, have you any ideas on where it might be? I think Lincolnshire for the GNR 4-4-2 could be a good call and I feel too that the LNWR station could be Welsh Valleys as well, but my collection of books does not cover the area. I thought Shirebrook had more of an S&C look about the architecture, however Nottinghamshire is interesting. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friar Tuck Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 http://www.flickr.co...57627166784504/ Difficult to believe a shanty town like Shirebrook would have deserved a station like that! In fact Shirebrook (MR) is completely different, in a Midland standard style and still exists. The LDEC and GNR stations at Shirebrook were different too. My bet would be LNWR, given the ornate brickwork over the windows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbyandbf3fan Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Doesn't look like Shirebrook; I used to live nearby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 "LNWR loco arriving" appears to have a platform on the running line right foreground, as well as evidently a platform underneath the canopy behind the train. So is this a case where the station is/was being relocated? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friar Tuck Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Stanley LNWR station in Liverpool shows how similar the architecture is to our mystery station http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/s/stanley/ compared with http://www.flickr.co...57627166784504/ It obviously is not the same building, but maybe an LNWR station elsewhere from the same era? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted January 30, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2014 Thanks for the comments the LNWR match from Stanley to http://tp://www.flickr.co...57627166784504/ is very striking, was this a style just in the north west or Liverpool area or was it more widespread? The LNWR loco arriving does show some sort of a platform and it is an interesting thought. Thanks again for all the suggestions and help Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friar Tuck Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Thanks for the comments the LNWR match from Stanley to http://tp://www.flickr.co...57627166784504/ is very striking, was this a style just in the north west or Liverpool area or was it more widespread? Thanks again for all the suggestions and help Duncan Sorry, but I can't help you any further on that - I only know about Stanley because I once built a model of a station building based on drawings of Stanley in the HMRS Journal, many years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friar Tuck Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 "LNWR loco arriving" appears to have a platform on the running line right foreground, as well as evidently a platform underneath the canopy behind the train. So is this a case where the station is/was being relocated? I would suggest the building behind the train is probably a goods shed or carriage shed - there are points under the train leading off the main line in that direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I would suggest the building behind the train is probably a goods shed or carriage shed - there are points under the train leading off the main line in that direction. Yes you may well be right. I was thinking of the very deep platform canopies that the L&Y and the LNW favoured but having found the zoom button I agree about the points and the end of the structure looks to be masonry not wood. So probably a siding going into a shed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted January 30, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2014 Some have suggested the potteries for the LNWR engine arriving, but I wondered more about either Wales or Cumbria? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted January 30, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2014 Some have suggested the potteries for the LNWR engine arriving, but I wondered more about either Wales or Cumbria? i thought longport looking towards kidsgrove when i saw the potteries mentioned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 31, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2014 Hi, Over the years you have all been really helpful in identifying quite a number of unidentified negatives within my collection. I now have some more mysteries I am hoping might ring a bell with someone. First a station, which to me at least has a LNWR feel, but is it. The sign at the end of the platform says British Transport commision so no help there. http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/11798403364/ Any help in identifying the locations or any information would really be appreciated. However even if you don't know where they are I hope you enjoy looking at them. There are still lots more unidentified negatives to come. Duncan Definitely Wales and I'm fairly sure it is South Wales probably on the Sirhowy Valley. A bit of photo research suggests to me that it is Argoed Halt on the Sirhowy Valley line which matches exactly several features visible on the pic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted January 31, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2014 Thanks for all your help on these it is really appreciated, there are now only these left to be identified 69163 on a BLS special in April 1961, http://www.flickr.co...07/11798673246/ The halt that defies even identifying which company it belonged to http://www.flickr.co...157627166784504 LSWR 755 at an unknown station, http://www.flickr.co...157627166784504 GNR 4-4-possibly in Lincolnshire, Peterborough or round Doncaster http://www.flickr.co...157627166784504 http://www.flickr.co...157627166784504 Possibly a LNWR station by the look of it possibly on a four track main line http://www.flickr.co...57627166784504/ Thanks again for all your help and suggestions Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted January 31, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2014 I spotted this on your Flickr page:http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/6993636216/in/set-72157627166784504/ It looks like Southampton, between Southampton West and Millbrook, with the rising ground of Freemantle to the left and the unreclaimed seawater behind and central Southampton in the distance. There would have been water to the right of the fence. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted January 31, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2014 Looking at some other pics in the photostream...... http://m.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/9289503491/lightbox/ Could this be denham Looking towards london from the down side, right hand diverging signal on the up for the uxbridge branch maybe? Denham has a subway but it is now in the centre of the platform, maybe they used to be shorter back then, a look on google maps kind of shows corresponding hedge lines in the background, the chimney in the background would be near the reservoirs/lakes so maybe something do do with those (ive just found a moorhall road pumping station nearby) Dropped Pin near Colne Valley Park, Denham Court Drive, Denham, Buckinghamshire UB9 5PG http://goo.gl/maps/0kaXm i may well be completly off the mark though!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted January 31, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2014 I felt that 755 was somewhere in the area based on the headcode, but was not sure, so many thanks for that identification. I had already been given the suggestion of the line through Denham and certainly based on the map and location, yes it is a good match, many thanks. Hopefully someone else will then be able to confirm to back it up. Many thanks again Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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