Allegheny1600 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Hi all, I've been thinking about starting this topic for some time now so lets get started; Books; "Settle - Carlisle Centenary" 100 years in pictures of England's highest main line railway. D. Joy & W.R. Mitchell (b&w) "Settle - Carlisle in Colour" David Joy (Colour!) "On the Settle & Carlisle Route" T.G. Flinders (b&w) (imho - not that good!) I thought I'd also got one called something like "Diesels over the roof of England" but I can't find it! Videos/DVD's; Settle & Carlisle then & now PSOV dvd 61mins mostly or all colour (inc. vintage!) Associated lines; "Through Limestone Hills" by Bill Hudson, a terrific book about the Midland's sadly closed line through the Peak district. Freight in the Peak District GRH Video 75mins c.1990's. These are just from my own small collection, I would be very happy to learn of more, especially any video/dvd's there may be. I've certainly borrowed others from my club's library but fail to remember titles. Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 11, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 11, 2014 Jeff's initial contribution - originally put in the Lounge in reply to John's idea: Here's a few books to get us started. These are all S&C related. If others want to make their own recommendations, put them on here, say which region/area they cover and - when there've been a number of contributions - I'll sort through and put them in one master post. Stations and Structures of the Settle & Carlisle Railway by Anderson and Fox Rails in the Fells by David Jenkinson London Midland Steam: Skipton-Carlisle by Leslie and Short Steam Over the Roof of England by Michael Welch London Midland: Steam in the Northern Fells by Derek Cross Settle & Carlisle: Steam Finale by Michael Welch The Settle to Carlisle: A Tribute by Roger Siviter Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Great idea John and one that I am sure will grow like the Lounge with more material being added and questions asked and answers given freely and with humor. Jeff has add as well so you have a good list for anyone new to the S&C, Midland, LMS, BR, over one of the nicest Rail Routes in the Country. Well done John :locomotive: Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted February 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2014 All S&C but may also include other bits of the Midland. North of Leeds (The Leeds Settle - Carlisle Line and its branches) Peter E Baughan pub Roundhouse 1966 A 450 page history of the route. Past and Present The Settle and Carlisle Line David J Williams Various books of Eric Treacy's Photos. Settle - Carlisle Railway Mitchell and Joy pub Dalesman Operation Midland Passenger Services 1955 includes St Pancras - Leeds - Carlisle Webb and Beckett Express publishing includes carriage workings, train formations, timetables etc. Midland Railway Working Timetable of Passenger Trains October 1922 covers all Midland lines, my own copy. The S&C part of this and a copy of the freight train WTT for the S&C are available at: http://steverabone.com/Hellifield%20Website/timetables_.htm Midland Railway Timetables July to September 1903 reprint by Ian Allan circa 1969 The Midland Railway A Chronology John Gough lists all the dates of everything Midland, also contains Track Diagrams and gradient profiles for all of the Midland The Midland's Settle and Carlisle Distance Diagrams Cumbrian Railways Association - reprints from the originals Midland Record - various issues - edited by Essery, pub Wild Swan The Midland Compounds O S Nock David and Charles 1964 contains details of various tests undertaken of Compounds on the S&C in the early days of the LMS as well as various bits about them in service on the S&C as well as elsewhere. Also, I think every book on Midland locos, coaches and wagons has references to the S&C. Historical Railway Modelling David Jenkinson pub Pendragon much of this book is actuually about the S&C. Lastly, just about every history of the Midland includes sections on the S&C. Edit to add: If you can find them BR working timetables (freight and passenger) and the relevant Sectional Appendix (mine is the London Midland Region Northern Section December 1977 version) give a huge amount of information. Public timetables can also prove useful, both the various BR ones issued at least twice a year and earlier LMS ones - I was left a copy of the LMS Summer 1939 public timetables by a relative who was an ex railwayman. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjp23480 Posted February 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2014 How about the following: Video/DVD: The Long Drag by Kingfisher Films Books: LM steam in the northern fells and LM steam Skipton to Carlisle both Bradford Barton Diesels over the Settle Carlisle by Walton The Settle Carlisle route revisited by Flinders The Settle and Carlisle Railway by OS Nock The scenic Settle and Carlisle Railway by Donald Binns Settle and Carlisle the twilight years by David Roberts Shanty Life on the Settle to Carlisle Railway WR Mitchell Footplate tales of the Settle to Carlisle Railway WR Mitchell and P Fox The story of the Settle to Carlisle line by Frederick Houghton and Hubert Foster - the original history of the line published 1948 Railways in the Northern dales: the Settle to Carlisle line by Wyvern Publications Settle and Carlisle revival: the line that refused to die by Brian Sharpe Ganger, guard and signalman: working memories of the S&C by Dick Fawcett Railway World special: the Settle and Carlisle route To kill a railway and The line that refused to die by Stan Abbott Garsdale by WR Mitchell Dalesman publications have produced several volumes all very similar but with minor changes to different editions The colour of steam: London Midland in the Fells by Derek Huntriss The long Drag: Settle to Carlisle portfolio by Gavin Morrison Settle and Carlsile steam finale by Michael Welch Settle Carlisle in Colour by David Joy portrait of the Settle to Carlisle by David Joy Modelling Historic Railways David Jenkinson is a mild rehash of Historical railway modelling listed above Finally: The Wensleydale Branch by CT Goode I Also have some bookmarks to a number of websites with interesting materials but don't have access on the iPad currently. I can post something in a few days or so. Hope this helps, Stephen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 25, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2014 Cheers Stephen. A good list - and I've only got about 4 of them!! Come on you S&C fans..... or Midland, if you want to post Peak District etc.stuff/ L&Y etc, please do. Just identify the region and submit your list. Open to all Lunesters - if it gets too congested/muddled we can re-sort the thread. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjp23480 Posted February 26, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2014 I may have posted this link before, certainly others will have done but this is a fantastic photo resource for many areas, including the North West: http://www.davidheyscollection.com/index.htm Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted March 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2014 I'll now add a couple more - acquisitions over the last week: (S&C) A Cumbrian Railway Album by Leslie R Gilpin (Cumbrian Railways Association, 2011) Railway World Special: The Settle & Carlisle Route (48 page booket, Ian Allan, 1984) Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted March 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2014 A Cumbrian Railway Album is a stunning collection of photos and probably one of my favourites (possibly biased by the photos of Sandside in it). Les Gilpin's new book, North Lancashire Railway Album is also great and would be of interest to Jamie I imagine, as there are a lot of photos of the Morecambe electrics, Green Ayre Station, etc. A lot of the books I have are either in lines in Cumbria or ex L&Y so not sure if they (especially the latter) would be right to pop in here. The North Lancashire one just fits in because it covers as far across as Settle Junction (which confusingly is in Yorkshire and always was, I believe) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted March 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2014 A Cumbrian Railway Album is a stunning collection of photos and probably one of my favourites (possibly biased by the photos of Sandside in it). Les Gilpin's new book, North Lancashire Railway Album is also great and would be of interest to Jamie I imagine, as there are a lot of photos of the Morecambe electrics, Green Ayre Station, etc. A lot of the books I have are either in lines in Cumbria or ex L&Y so not sure if they (especially the latter) would be right to pop in here. The North Lancashire one just fits in because it covers as far across as Settle Junction (which confusingly is in Yorkshire and always was, I believe) Post your list, Jason. I think we'll end up with a predominantly S&C/Lancashire list of books/DVDs, but ALL areas of Lunester interest can be catered for here. Please put your area of interest (eg. S&C, L&Y, Southern) somewhere near the top of the post so it's easy to sort out relevance. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45562 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p01rwh55/Nairn_Across_Britain_From_Leeds_into_Scotland/ There's some good footage of the S&C on this video which is on the iPlayer at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted March 12, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 12, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p01rwh55/Nairn_Across_Britain_From_Leeds_into_Scotland/ There's some good footage of the S&C on this video which is on the iPlayer at the moment. An excellent film from 1972. Hardly a foreign car in sight - lots of Morris Minors, Minis etc. A different world - I like the way the old lady pops out of her house at Settle at 5'20" and looks at the cameras/presenter as if to say "what the hell are you doing here?" Thanks for the link - no doubt it'll disappear from iPlayer within a couple of weeks. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted March 12, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 12, 2014 Wonderful film, as is the other one on the canals (including Bingley Five Rise). Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 1960's film about the S&C on YouTube! Cheers, John E. PS another good one here; Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted March 17, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17, 2014 A Cumbrian Railway Album is a stunning collection of photos and probably one of my favourites (possibly biased by the photos of Sandside in it). Les Gilpin's new book, North Lancashire Railway Album is also great and would be of interest to Jamie I imagine, as there are a lot of photos of the Morecambe electrics, Green Ayre Station, etc. A lot of the books I have are either in lines in Cumbria or ex L&Y so not sure if they (especially the latter) would be right to pop in here. The North Lancashire one just fits in because it covers as far across as Settle Junction (which confusingly is in Yorkshire and always was, I believe) Thanks for the mention, yes I got given a copy of the North |lancashire Album it's a great book. I'll have to go and try and get near my book shelves and copy down what I've got, Many have already been mentoned but there are others. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted March 18, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2014 With books I'd find it useful if there was some idea of the sort of content, e.g. is it mostly photos, history, technical information etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted March 18, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2014 With books I'd find it useful if there was some idea of the sort of content, e.g. is it mostly photos, history, technical information etc. For ALL the books I've listed you can assume a predominance of photographs. These are generally accompanied by detailed captions with location, loco number/type, date of photo etc. Most S&C books tend to be in "photo album" format. Some include very detailed plans/history/economics etc of the line: in my list, the Jenkinson and Anderson/Fox books include a lot of this. It's always a good idea - if possible - to have a scan of these books before you buy them. There are many good ones and a few duffers. I think you can rely on all the books referenced here being on the "good" side of average. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted March 18, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2014 Amazon and similar usually contain an overview of content type; if people were to add it here, there is a danger of it having to be an overview and review of each title and that would put people (well, me for one) of adding titles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted March 18, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2014 Amazon and similar usually contain an overview of content type; if people were to add it here, there is a danger of it having to be an overview and review of each title and that would put people (well, me for one) of adding titles Yes, you have a point there Jason. I suppose what this thread is trying to do is point people in the right direction, resources-wise, based on material that we've found useful. And nothing more, as we're not trying to give reviews. If anybody wishes to give more in-depth info, good for them. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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