DanielB Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 RESTARTED THREAD STARTS HERE: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/82730-stanhope-glass-co/?p=1547630 After a long period of collecting O gauge track and rolling stock as cheaply as possible, I figured now was as good a time as any to actually build something with it all.I've been banding around several ideas, including a Glassworks, and a model - or at least a representation of - Bolsover Colliery, as it casts a huge shadow over my youth both literally, and as my father worked there from my birth up until it closed in 1993, figuratively as well.After investigation on Bolsover Colliery showed that it would be a massive undertaking to model it on my own, I settled on the glassworks.It isn't much to begin with but I am sure I can extend the layout as time and money allow.For now, this is what I have:The buildings are of course mock ups at this stage but that should give an idea of what I am trying to achieve.So far the only structure which has had serious work put in is the loading dock at the front of the layout. It's going to represent either a cullet or sand store, depending on if I can find a suitable way of representing cullet in model form.It is made from a balsa wood core with individual planks added to the top and the front (not visible from the front of the layout), made from coffee stirrers collected from Costa and McDonalds over the last year.Much more work to do but now it's time to make the Sunday dinner, so I'll have to wait until later this evening I reckon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 More work done on the loading dock, and I have made a start on the drainage ditch. Once the loading dock is ready for painting I will be making a start on the backscene buildings. I snapped a few more photos on my phone. They aren't great but they do the job. Let me know what you think. Cheers, Dan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesperus Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Looks like a good start, I like the ditch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 So far the only structure which has had serious work put in is the loading dock at the front of the layout. It's going to represent either a cullet or sand store, depending on if I can find a suitable way of representing cullet in model form.It is made from a balsa wood core with individual planks added to the top and the front (not visible from the front of the layout), made from coffee stirrers collected from Costa and McDonalds over the last year. That's got to be one expensive loading dock! Cullet - how about real glass? I topped the wall on BT&S with real glass. I smashed a small piece and then ground it up with a pestle and mortar. Just make sure you wear goggles and thick gloves if you try this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted February 23, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23, 2014 The coffee-stirrer construction looks good, suggest dark wood stain. Agree that home-ground glass should work for cullet. Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 Isn't grinding up glass a bad idea? I mean, surely I'd end up with glass dust everywhere? I'd rather not risk my puppies health with that crap around the house/garden. I'm a bit clueless where that is concerned to be honest. I'll be doing some more work on the layout at work tomorrow, I think - I'll try to keep the thread updated with my progress. I'm feeling pretty inspired at the moment, as I'm really pleased with how the loading dock is turning out. I feel a trip to Costa coming on tomorrow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 Oh, I meant to mention roughly the kind of costs I've spent on this so far. The balsa wood is from a Jarvis scenics jumbo pack which cost £8 from a model shop near my railway club. The coffee stirrers were free. The baseboard was traded with members of my railway club for some MDF off cuts I got a long while ago for a modelling project that never came about - they cost £4, so that's technically what the baseboard cost. The plaster filler which is being layered up to form the bed of the ditch was from Poundland - guess how much it cost! The brick papers are from Scalescenes which I got along with their windows and arches kit for £4 combined cost - printed out at work so no cost for paper or ink. The reeds are from a cut up wallpaper pasting brush - another Poundland find. The track was part of pack of several meters of home built track I got from Ebay for £16 delivered, so about £2 for what I've used here (and that's erring on the expensive, it's probably much less) The foam core for the backscene buildings was purchased from Ebay - a pack of 10 A1 sheets which were £30 delivered - got them a while ago to try and make baseboards with but by the time they arrived I'd already found a source of free wood - thank you work! I estimate I'll use about 1 full sheet so £3 for that. The corrugated iron panels you can see lying around in some of the photos were made from a corrugated card press I picked up in Hobbycraft for £3 and some aluminium food trays I got from B&M for 89p. The rolling stock is by far the most expensive. £10 each for the two 16T mineral wagons and £8 each for the 5 plank wagon, low sided steel wagon and the van. They all need TLC and detailing work to make them decent but they are passable for now, and for those prices I'm not complaining! So far, a fairly decent budget for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Isn't grinding up glass a bad idea? I mean, surely I'd end up with glass dust everywhere? I'd rather not risk my puppies health with that crap around the house/garden. Like anything where animals are concerned it's only a bad idea if you leave it lying aound where they can get at it. If you keep it all in one place and make sure what you do use on the layout is properly glued down and you dispose of the waste properly I can't see there being any problem. I have a young whippet who will steal anything that's not fastened down so I need to take the same care with any modelling glues, materials, tools etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Got a little time to work on the loading dock some more today. Here's the progress photo: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted February 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24, 2014 Looks good, you could try coarse sea salt for the cullet, glue down with PVA & paint with thinned enamels, green-brown? Don't use water & the sodium may affect paint over time! Just a thought. Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 THREAD-O-MANCY! I've not forgotten this project, though I've shelved it up until now due to the need to get an N scale exhibition layout built. Now that's done, I've revisited Stanhope Glass and am hoping to push on with the build. Here's a trackplan and mockup sketch of the new layout - should be a fun build and an O gauge learning experience! It's small, but it's enough for me for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 A short update for now, I've been trying my hand at some Jim Read wagon "kits" and have gotten a bit done so far. Not a bad first attempt I think. The plan is to get as much of it assembled as I can, then coat it in a few layers of shellac to make it as rigid as possible. I'll then figure out the brakes, suspension etc and buffers, then add wooden strips for the wagon surface and weight the bottom before fitting some wheels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 With the baseboards roughly assembled I have mocked up the layout to check dimensions and such. This should give you an idea of what I am going for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesperus Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Looking good Daniel, wagon turntables are pretty easy to turn into a working feature with wire in tube if you make a start early enough on. Can you put a link up for Jims wagon kit please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Thanks Hesperus, much appreciated. I admit I'd not considered making the wagon turntable "hands free", but I'll certainly look into it now! Regard Jim's wagon "kits", your best bet is to search "Moxley Heath" on this forum, his layout build thread shows his scratchbuilding methods, and is a great read too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Well, after checking the measurements of my little match car, I've confirmed what I suspected yesterday at work, and that is that the wagon is considerably under scale. It seems the printer I used to print the drawings has compressed the image along the way. Rather than waste time trying to enlarge it to the correct size, I will simply start again with the same wagon but using my own measurements. In the mean time, I do have a small open wagon that is to the correct scale, which I am having a go at making using Jim's drawings. I had 30 minutes before work and got the sides of the wagon cut out and glued. I'll continue the work on my lunch break this afternoon. The wagon is designed to have sprung buffers on one end and dumb buffers at the other, which is why one end has a full bufferbeam and the other end doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Read Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Hello Daniel, Thanks for the link to the layout it looks reely grate, nice to see someone else having a go. At the back of us is a young lad who works at a company that sharpens circular saw blades (all done on CNC machines now) anyway it turns out that a row of blades is used to grind glass into powder, never knew that before! Hello Hesperus, One of the reasons for making your own wagons apart from the obvious one that doing it is the most satisfying aspect of modelling, is that you can make wagons that there aren't any kits for. Thanks to the efforts of Andy Young (cornamuse) and a little input from me I have some drawings of short wheelbase wagons suited to micro layouts. If you would like to have please let me know your email address. Cheers - Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Thanks Jim. It was your inspiration at the Mansfield show when you were exhibiting Moxley Heath that planted the seed in the back of my mind! Hopefully my layout will do you proud. I had a half hour to work on the wagon at lunch time, and so I just had to get a couple of progress shots. Let me know what you all think! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted August 13, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2014 An interesting project. The glassworks around Castleford and Knittingley provided a lot of interest in the 70's. One of the ones at Knottingley used to use a tractor with big plates front and back to shunt the sand wagons across the A645 and the Castleford one used a wagin turntable in the middle of it's siding to take sand hoppers down into the works at right angles through a doorway. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesperus Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Jim has a PM I designed my own 7mm card wagon a while back, it's on this thread http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/47662-card-rolling-stock/page-7 It would be good to see how someone else fairs with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Read Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Hello all, With all this about making wagons and things from card for some jobs; blobbng on rivet heads with a pin and making fillets of glue to make a smooth radius as in loco chimneys a slow setting and quite thick glue is called for. Seccotine the best glue for this never went away it's used for musical instrument repairs and a lady called Lucy Coad sells it: http://www.squarepiano.co.uk/shop.html Cheers - Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 It would appear that Stanhope Glass has purchased it's first locomotive! It's going to be fun seeing what I can turn this into. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 An Atlas, thats what i plan on getting when i eventually move up to O gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Having had nothing but great performance from my N scale Atlas models, I'm sure this is going to be a sterling performer, but I'll be testing it as soon as I am able. Over my lunch break I've been attacking card with a stanley knife. Can you tell what it is yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Isambarduk Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Is it the beginnings of a NER Class H / LNER Y7 ?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NER_Class_H David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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