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Another one done, I used oil paints to fade the colours on this one and a dark pin wash.  I'd like to colour the coupling a bit better without painting but not sure how to get a frame dirt colour on the etch, and then think about some sort of load. 

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All finished! 

A group of wagons await collection from Docklands Sidings, just need a weathered loco to come and pick them up now! 

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I've started the tarpaulins for a couple of the wagons, I wrapped them up in cling film first, the blue one is tissue paper and the other one kitchen roll, both painted with dilute PVA, I'll see which looks the best.

 

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All finished! 

A group of wagons await collection from Docklands Sidings, just need a weathered loco to come and pick them up now! 

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I've started the tarpaulins for a couple of the wagons, I wrapped them up in cling film first, the blue one is tissue paper and the other one kitchen roll, both painted with dilute PVA, I'll see which looks the best.

 

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A very nice set of wagons indeed; hard to believe their origins, looking at them there on the layout, in context.  Well worth the time and effort you've expended on them.  I really must dig out the pair I have stashed away in my roundtuit box! :D

 

All the best,

 

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Thanks @Grampus

 

I've tried a couple of experiments. The tissue one I feel, the colour isn't quite right and the tissue one is a bit too thick, I'll have to use just one sheet of kitchen roll next time. 

Still not sure what to paint the the kitchen roll. 

 

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I've finished the first Tarpaulined wagon. 

 

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working from a photo I used some red thread for ropes attached to the sheet and brown cotton for extra ropes.  I found the ends difficult as they were not always sheeted neat and parcel like. I've one more to do now. 

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The other wagon is done now, just a bit of tweaking of the coupling needed as once hooked up it doesn't fall down and actually pushes the wagon and sometimes uncouples. 

An enjoyable project, now for something else. 

 

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Next up a couple of Hornby coal hoppers, I've weathered the insides using a method on a thread by @EWS60065 the outsides I want to try a technique seen on youtube using Games Workshop Typhus Corrosion paint which has a slight texture when dry, I did use a bit of it on the inside of the wagons too. 

 

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Following this video on youtube  by Ollie Turner and Chris Mathews,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpT0al779Ak&t=124s

I started the outside of the wagons. The Typhus Corrosion does give a nice texture maybe a tad too coarse for 4mm but I think it looks ok. I'm no trying to think of how to add to it a bit, maybe powders or slightly different shades of paint. 

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The Citadel  paint goes on ok and the coat of burnt umber over the top covers anything underneath. I recon 2 coats of the Citadel paint might give a too coarse a texture. I'll put a photo on with just one coat of citadel paint when I do the next one.

I've also found some Valejo rust texture which seem the same as the citadel stuff, maybe a bit thinner. 

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I had a play with a couple of panels of rust today to show how the paint covers,  the first one on the  is the Typhus Corrosion on it's own, the next one has had a layer of Acrylic Burnt Umber put over the top. I wasn't happy with the right hand panel so I ended up re doing that. 

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This is after I'd taken off a load of paint, I worked from a pic of a HTO wagon. I'm a bi stuck as to what to do next now though, the pic shows some staining and streaks and I'm not too sure how to get them. I'll also put a layer of grime over the top. 

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1 hour ago, sb67 said:

I had a play with a couple of panels of rust today to show how the paint covers,  the first one on the  is the Typhus Corrosion on it's own, the next one has had a layer of Acrylic Burnt Umber put over the top. I wasn't happy with the right hand panel so I ended up re doing that. 

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This is after I'd taken off a load of paint, I worked from a pic of a HTO wagon. I'm a bi stuck as to what to do next now though, the pic shows some staining and streaks and I'm not too sure how to get them. I'll also put a layer of grime over the top. 

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Oh now this is interesting as I'm thinking of getting a rake of 21t hoppers bought up to be detailed and weathered myself. Looking forward to see how you get on Steve. Looking very good already, I'm sure powders will help to get the look you are going for. 

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James

 

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8 hours ago, AlfaZagato said:

Appreciate you showing the coverage, very helpful!

 

Maybe use a dot filter of artist's oils for streaking?   That's what we're advised to do with military models.

 

9 hours ago, jessy1692 said:

Oh now this is interesting as I'm thinking of getting a rake of 21t hoppers bought up to be detailed and weathered myself. Looking forward to see how you get on Steve. Looking very good already, I'm sure powders will help to get the look you are going for. 

Cheers

James

 

 I've been looking at some military modelling stuff, they do get some great effects although a bigger scale and you can really go to town with a tank model!  I'll try the oil dot method, I did try some powders but they will not stick to the grey at all as it's the original factory finish.  I'll let the rust dry for a few days as I started to take some off when I was trying stuff, maybe I should have given the wagon a spray of matt varnish before I started. 

 

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maybe I should have given the wagon a spray of matt varnish before I started. 

 

Not that I'm an expert on weathering, but that's the first thing I do with rtr models to kill off the shiny finish which nothing seems to stick to, and give a good key for subsequent paint/powders etc.

 

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I've added some streaks and staining using acrylic washes and a few powders. The photo I was looking at showed the wagon didn't actually have too many so I'll leave it at this. I've got to deal with the underframe next, not sure if I should use my underused airbrush or brush paint. There's another coal hopper to start as well. 

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I've made a start on the other wagon. I'm using the Vallejo paint set  and adapting methods in this video,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OtitXtbnSI&t=785s

  I'm not sure how larger rust patches would look without much texture so I thought I'd be a bit more subtle with the weathering. The panels I've started are the darker ones to the right of centre, the others are where I've been experimenting and will get covered up. I've just painted some initial chips using the German Camo Brown and drew the colours down using a flat brush. 

I still haven't decide on the underframes, that's something I struggle to get going with, I like the uniform dusty finish of an airbrush but not all prototypes are like that. 

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On 15/04/2022 at 18:35, lapford34102 said:

And after all your hard work.......

 

https://rapidotrains.co.uk/br-diagram-1-191-oaa-open-wagon/

 

Stu

 

A new OAA is long overdue and they do look good but at that price I'd be a bit nervous of sloshing dirty brown paint all over them! I wonder if they have a rigid underframe or something similar to Bachmann and Hornby.

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...And no matter how good the new model will be, that does not detract in the slightest from the quality, top drawer models you have produced from some fairly unpromising raw materials! 🙂

 

Cheers,

 

Paul

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