Bachmann announce Class 90 (OO)

[adb968008]

1 hour ago, 298 said:

 

But is it? Considering Bachmann had them at £179 with the specialist chip for free, £130-something means they're only loosing the retailer's markup. 

 

 

Are they? Back in the day when Hornby 90s were 2 for £30 and Shawplan had the paint and transfers it didn't take me long to complete the set. There wasn't a question that I could only have one or two. The Belgian one was my favourite livery but certainly rarer on passenger and sleeper workings, certainly compared to 90029. 

 

90136 would be a good choice because of its use with Anglia and prior to it's repaint into Red it was one of the longest lived liveries still in use, albeit with a few minor variations.

In all my years watching, I never saw more than 1 in a day. Never saw the 4 together (don’t forget the British one). So to have all four on your layout at the same time … SNCB was my favourite as it stood out. DB next. The sybic one was a little dull and the BR one never looked right (because it was different to the rest).

[TomScrut]

10 hours ago, 298 said:

But is it? Considering Bachmann had them at £179 with the specialist chip for free, £130-something means they're only loosing the retailer's markup. 

 

Well, they have gone from having what I presume is a very large markup (over RRP, no retailer to take a cut) to having a price that is way below RRP of the original release and then also bringing in a cut for the retailer? Look at the 9F. Was £170 at the BCC, now £113 at TMC. So Bachmann have gone from wanting £170 for it to selling it to TMC for less than £100 as a guess.

[298]

9 hours ago, adb968008 said:

In all my years watching, I never saw more than 1 in a day. Never saw the 4 together (don’t forget the British one). So to have all four on your layout at the same time … SNCB was my favourite as it stood out. DB next. The sybic one was a little dull and the BR one never looked right (because it was different to the rest).

 

There was at least six occasions when the 3 or 4 were reunited, such as Crewe open days or for a trade event at Trafford Park.

[Patriot87003]

2 hours ago, 298 said:

 

There was at least six occasions when the 3 or 4 were reunited, such as Crewe open days or for a trade event at Trafford Park.

Agree … one such occasion being the Crewe Basford Hall open day during 21st August 1994. I just about managed to catch the three of them together …

 

[Pete the Elaner]

15 hours ago, 298 said:

 

90136 would be a good choice because of its use with Anglia and prior to it's repaint into Red it was one of the longest lived liveries still in use, albeit with a few minor variations.

 

I remember seeing it regularly on the sleepers in its last few years in Sybic as 90036.

The yellow roof had faded a lot. I could not tell what livery it was. The Railfreight Distribution decals on the side had faded from red to yellow. The red of the sector markings had faded almost completely, then they got covered with an EWS logo.

It was still one of my favourite liveries though.

[cairnsroadworks]

90136 and 90130 are both in the works here. 

[cairnsroadworks]

9 hours ago, TomScrut said:

 

Well, they have gone from having what I presume is a very large markup (over RRP, no retailer to take a cut) to having a price that is way below RRP of the original release and then also bringing in a cut for the retailer? Look at the 9F. Was £170 at the BCC, now £113 at TMC. So Bachmann have gone from wanting £170 for it to selling it to TMC for less than £100 as a guess.

They didn’t last long at TMC at that price!

[Ncarter2]

18 minutes ago, cairnsroadworks said:

90136 and 90130 are both in the works here. 

May need to get a 90136!

[adb968008]

8 hours ago, 298 said:

 

There was at least six occasions when the 3 or 4 were reunited, such as Crewe open days or for a trade event at Trafford Park.

Ive not seen too many layouts that model an openday though.

[TH47541]

I have been thinking about picking up a RES Class 90 as it looks great. I had trouble with the bogies on the initial Class 90 in RFD livery which had to be sent back. Does the new releases suffer from such problems too or have Bachmann fixed this? 

 

Thanks for any help in influencing the opening of my wallet.

[ThaneofFife]

Is the pan assembly available as a,spare?  How much are they if anybody knows?

[97406]

29 minutes ago, ThaneofFife said:

Is the pan assembly available as a,spare?  How much are they if anybody knows?

 

Contact their customer services as I recall they did have some spares taken off returned 90s. If you’re just after a Brecknell Willis pantograph for a different loco, then there’s still a few Heljan ones available from Gaugemaster. Weaken the spring if you have OHLE. https://www.gaugemasterretail.com/magento/Heljan-hn19850013.html

 

The Bachmann one is the best at the moment, though..

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[Patriot87003]

50 minutes ago, TH47541 said:

I have been thinking about picking up a RES Class 90 as it looks great. I had trouble with the bogies on the initial Class 90 in RFD livery which had to be sent back. Does the new releases suffer from such problems too or have Bachmann fixed this? 

 

Thanks for any help in influencing the opening of my wallet.

Go for it!

 

I’ve not had any problems with any of the Class 90’s that I’ve bought and the RES livery does look good on a 90. I understand some loco’s in batch 1 had the bogie retaining screws over tightened and were prone to some damage during transit if bounced about, but subsequent batches haven’t had this issue.

The real 90019 at King’s Cross before hauling a tour north during 12th July 1992

90019 again hauling a decent length parcels train through Stafford during 14th July 1994

 

 

 

[Markwj]

1 hour ago, TH47541 said:

I have been thinking about picking up a RES Class 90 as it looks great. I had trouble with the bogies on the initial Class 90 in RFD livery which had to be sent back. Does the new releases suffer from such problems too or have Bachmann fixed this? 

 

Thanks for any help in influencing the opening of my wallet.

I have had 2 locos from the subsequent batches (including the res one) with no issues with the bogies at all. Also I haven’t read any reports on here or elsewhere regarding bogie issues so I suspect you will be fine.

cheers

mark

[adb968008]

4 hours ago, ThaneofFife said:

Is the pan assembly available as a,spare?  How much are they if anybody knows?

I bought several from Bachmann, £15 a go.

i had to call though.

 

if your not fitting them to a Bachmann 90, you need to trim off the “tail” that goes to the servo in the body.

They do however fit a lot of locos straight out.. Trix 81, Hornby 86/87/90, Heljan 86. They also fit the old (but not new) Hornby 91.

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[Going2theDogs]

6 hours ago, TH47541 said:

I have been thinking about picking up a RES Class 90 as it looks great. I had trouble with the bogies on the initial Class 90 in RFD livery which had to be sent back. Does the new releases suffer from such problems too or have Bachmann fixed this? 

 

Thanks for any help in influencing the opening of my wallet.

Hi All,

I have the sound fitted class 90 in RES livery & have to say it is absolutely superb.

My loco has been subtly weathered to tone down the bright paintwork.

I would strongly recommend this loco & would suggest to shop around as there as some good deals about from the likes of TMC etc.

[TH47541]

Thank you gentlemen, that is most reassuring. It was all that was holding me back. Vouchers make the purchase possible so will be invested wisely! 

[Squirrel Rail]

Finished my Anglia 90, took a while but got there, the etched horn grills I had made a couple of years ago worked absolutely fine!! 

side view:

other side….

and the revised front end;

[WCML100]

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[WCML100]

1 hour ago, Squirrel Rail said:

Finished my Anglia 90, took a while but got there, the etched horn grills I had made a couple of years ago worked absolutely fine!! 

side view:

other side….

and the revised front end;

That looks cracking mate!

[letterspider]

Great work, especially like the Cargowaggons.

[97406]

Going back to the Freightconnection class 90s, I’ve been trying to find some shots of them from the original exhibition before they got full yellow ends. So far I’ve found just this one from Rail Magazine. The Belgian one looked especially cool to these eyes, so will keep looking.

[cairnsroadworks]

11 hours ago, Squirrel Rail said:

Finished my Anglia 90, took a while but got there, the etched horn grills I had made a couple of years ago worked absolutely fine!! 

side view:

other side….

and the revised front end;

Very tasty! Have you any spare horn grilles perchance?!

[298]

On 23/01/2023 at 08:39, 97406 said:

Going back to the Freightconnection class 90s, I’ve been trying to find some shots of them from the original exhibition before they got full yellow ends. So far I’ve found just this one from Rail Magazine. The Belgian one looked especially cool to these eyes, so will keep looking.

 

I did have a clipping from Railway Magazine showing the unveiling at a weed-strewn Crewe Electric, but can't find it at the moment. Considering they didn't leave CE without yellow ends, those photos are rarer a red 90129 with yellow ends before the DB chevron was applied...

 

https://flic.kr/p/aoFSPw

 

 

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[Benjamin Brady]

I have a photo of all three on the ETD before the yellow ends were painted, now it is going to be a mission to go and find them. 

 

I always though 028 looked good with the full Belgium ends