RMweb Premium Barry O Posted December 17, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2018 Brian Never had a camera at the time unfortunately. I think the signal may still be there. It was a two colour signal.... Baz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold imt Posted December 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2018 PPS. The Train-tech feather signals are "limited" as regards your 4J1 suggestion and looking at the way the signal LEDs are made would be frankly impossible. Cheap and cheerful I'm afraid is the order of the day but please see my earlier remarks. Thanks yet again for the time you have spent on this matter. I use TrainTech exclusively on my layout and think they are good too. There is a lot to be said for simplicity. So replace the "Christmas Tree" of a Home signal I suggested with a single right feather from TT and you have it. I really would advise against too many signals, apart from costs they don't look "right" if scattered everywhere. They really do need to contribute to "safety" and be in necessary places. I know that TrainTech GPLS kits work well too. All mine are pre-made DCC ones since I have full DCC control, but a friend of mine uses the kits and even "kit bashes" them further (despite the burnt and cut fingers!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 Work continues on the station building. All the roof panels have been tiled and glued in position and the NER style simplified decorative barge boards added as below... ...and on the layout. Chimney tops and pots, guttering and down-pipes still to be added and some tangerine North Eastern Region signage. Two more Train-tech signals arrived today so signalling may commence soon. Regards, Brian. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tom shaw Posted December 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2018 That is really good to know that Q6s and colour light signals "mingled" on the Durham coast line. Don't suppose you have any pics or reference thereto to share? Regards, Brian. Brian, Q6's and colour lights, the line from Pelaw past Gateshead shed had colour lights in the mid 60's. I'll pm some scans from various books. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 I have assembled the two Train-tech signals (the ones that arrived the other day) this afternoon, still not wired up though. They go together very well except for the hand rails... ...which I think Iain has already mentioned are fiddly in the extreme - my tweezer work was found lacking but I got there in the end. They will need a paint. Looking at our local line's signals it looks like a fair amount of the metal work (steps, hand rail and the upper landing) are galvanised steel so I need to paint a lot of the black plastic greyish. These two signals will act as starters for platforms 1, 2, 3 and 4 (signal pros look away now). I have drilled some experimental holes in their proposed location and have found clearances a bit tight or non existent if I want to retain the barrow crossing (which I do!) so I might have to trim a little off the platform ends which I think will work and still not look too much like the proverbial dog's breakfast and hopefully more like the dog's other things beginning with "b" More pics in due course to show how things turn out. Regards, Brian. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 This is the sort of clearance issue I was concerned about... ...so the platforms were trimmed back a little to move the signals further back from the pinch points while still retaining the barrow crossing which is now stuck down. I can now get on with finishing off the signals (painting and wiring). Regards, Brian. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Should the water columns be a bit further back, so a locomotive can take water without passing the signal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 Should the water columns be a bit further back, so a locomotive can take water without passing the signal? Thanks for that Zomboid, I'll check and move them back if necessary, fortunately they are not stuck down. Regards, Brian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 Earlier, I popped down the road to our local station to check the exact shades of grey of the signal metal work. There seemed to be two shades - the post and platform were noticeably darker than the ladder and handrails - see pic. So the three signals were duly painted, placed on the layout and the water columns moved slightly (thanks again Zomboid for the spot). I feel another little mini project coming on - some running in boards, tangerine of course Regards, Brian. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 The NER did tend to be a lot more 'enthusiastic' about signalling than many other pre-Grouping Companies. Even at wayside stations there were often plenty of ground signals and/or shunting signals to be seen, looking at old signalling diagrams. Where others would simply use a flag shown from the signal box, the NER would have a signal... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold imt Posted December 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2018 Lovely signals - wish mine looked as good. <start of winge> I note you have left the signal with a feather on your goods line. Please move it - you have an ideal place as a home signal by your first crossover. Where it is means you will have to operate it every time you want to do a shunt past it. Trains cannot pass red signals. Not very realistic and a complete pain after a while - unless you ain't going to operate to your signals, in which case why buy them? Replace it with one of Train Techs beautiful yellow/white shunt signals. You only clear it to white when a train is leaving the yard, otherwise shunt all you like. <end of winge> Love your station. It all looks so good. Have a very Happy Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 Lovely signals - wish mine looked as good. <start of winge> I note you have left the signal with a feather on your goods line. Please move it - you have an ideal place as a home signal by your first crossover. Where it is means you will have to operate it every time you want to do a shunt past it. Trains cannot pass red signals. Not very realistic and a complete pain after a while - unless you ain't going to operate to your signals, in which case why buy them? Replace it with one of Train Techs beautiful yellow/white shunt signals. You only clear it to white when a train is leaving the yard, otherwise shunt all you like. <end of winge> Love your station. It all looks so good. Have a very Happy Christmas. Please point me to your layout thread so I can return Winge - only joking Basically, the goods departure feathered signal is staying 'cos I like it (rule 1 applies). The signal will be controlled by two switches, one controlling the red or green aspect (when green a train can proceed to the headshunt which means in reality the shunter will pull the train into the headshunt to release the loco) and the other switch controlling the feather (which will only be lit with a green aspect below to allow a train to depart on the down main line or to release the loco to the shed/turntable. I like the "control" aspects of the hobby so the more signals the better. I think we will have to agree to disagree on this matter. All the best to you and yours at Christmas and for the new year and thanks again for taking an interest in my ramblings and for taking the time to comment. Regards, Brian. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 To everyone who has entered in here to follow my ramblings....... ...and have a great festive season. All the very best, Brian. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Merry Christmas, Brian Cheers Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AireValley1962 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Happy Christmas, Brian, all the way from Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 Merry Christmas, Brian Cheers Scott Happy Christmas, Brian, all the way from Canada. It is so very nice to have greetings from far, far away such as these. All down to the power of RMweb. Thanks guys, I hope you had a great Christmas. Best Regards, Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 A final update for 2018 is in order I think. Santa delivered a new shunter called "Katie" to the colliery to help out the Austerity 0-6-0ST... ...and when I switch this... ...this happens... ...so the platform end starter signals for both platforms 1 and 2 are now lit up. Still a lot more to do on the signalling front though. As part of a flying visit to the East Midlands at the weekend visiting Mrs D's sister and family, I managed a brief but well timed visit to the Great Central and managed to get some half decent pictures of Brit "Oliver Cromwell" arriving and departing Quorn & Woodhouse. Apparently it's boiler certificate expires today so Ollie will be off the tracks for quite a while I understand - see below. So, it's goodnight from me and I'll see you next year. Best Regards, Brian. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Awesome happy new year! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 Signal work continues. By tomorrow hopefully all of the starter signals will be working. Two more feathered signals are in hand, just waiting on some more wire and switches to arrive. Meanwhile, a Clayton approaches from the north on a coastal tank train complete with diesel brake tender. It needs reversal to continue its journey south... ...so the shunter first removes the train to the head-shunt... ...so that the Clayton can be released. I have read that the NE Region favoured diesels pushing their brake tenders so the Clayton runs round the brake tender... ...while the shunter pushes back the train into the arrival/departure road and returns to the head-shunt... ...enabling the Clayton and tender to back down on to the train to await... ...its departure slot... ...and continues its journey south. Bye for now. Regards, Brian. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Good pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 Good pictures All carefully cropped of course to hide (most of) the unfinished areas on the layout Happy New Year Dan. Regards, Brian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 As reported yesterday, all of the starters are now wired and switched. I am conscious that nothing on the layout is completely finished, the station area being perhaps more "finished" than elsewhere on the layout, so I will concentrate I think on finishing the station so I need to..... provide proper support to the station canopies - they are currently supported on rolled up card tubes. provide running in boards which will at last give the station a visible name. add tangerine NE BR signage in the station (platform numbers etc). possibly upgrade the footbridge to make it look more NER. The Hornby Scaledale footbridge would be ideal but I am unsure of the span and whether it would fit my platforms. ditto the goods shed (maybe replace the Scalescenes kit with the Smart Models Beamish shed). So, still plenty to do. Regards, Brian. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) I am still awaiting a delivery of switches and wire so signalling is paused at the moment and proper support for the platform canopies is being targeted in the form of... ...more Scalescenes' island platform buildings, one large one as complete top left and two smaller ones. I also need to make some supporting columns etc from styrene tubes, rods and other sections. Meanwhile, mainline steam has... ...given way to... ...mainline diesel and the corresponding service departs. It may interest those who follow my ramblings that I happened to just check the age and how much I paid for the two diesels. They both date from 2005 and I paid £62 for the Peak and £56.50 for the EE Type 4. How times and prices have changed. Both stil superb and powerful runners. Regards, Brian. Edited January 9, 2019 by Brian D 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Nice work So today that would prob be £150 minimum for the locos... Shocking really. I know there’s a trade off between volume and niche but I would buy more locos if they were £50 less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 Work continues (slowly) on the platform buildings. The two smaller ones are now complete (less signage) and enough parts cut, covered and laminated to complete the larger building - see below. I have a plan for the remaining canopy supports involving lots of plastic columns so that task or perhaps more signalling (wire and switches now to hand) will follow completion of these buildings. Getting there! (slowly) Regards, Brian. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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