70E Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I have the following Hornby super detail K class Pullman cars 1st class kitchen Minerva 1st class Fingall 3rd class brake No 63 3rd class brake No 248 2nd class parlour No 66 Belle Observation car Q.1 If I renumbered car No 63 to No 65 and car No 248 to No 65 would these and the named coaches Minerva and Fingall have run in the Devon Belle between 1950- 1954 as modified plated versions? Q.2 what would car No 66 be renumbered/named to if anything to suite the Devon Belle? Q3. Should I bite the bullet and sell all except the observation car and look to buy match boarded side versions in the coach packs etc? Not looking to form a whole rake but whatever I can obtain or modify to suit. many thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted September 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2014 HIThe Devon Belle formation tended to change each year and there were of course two rakes.The only car of your list that was include in a DB rake was Fingall that was in rake 1 in 1952 the rest of the 1952 rake 1 was as follows (8 indicates if required):Sat only Exeter portion: Brake (B)Juno, Kitchen (K) Philomel, K No17* G Montana*Main Ilfracombe portion: B 27, K 171, K Fingall, Parlour (P) Rosemary, K 61*, K 60, G 208, Obs car 13 I have found my lists of formations and these are below for each year: 26/9/49 Formation of the Devon Belle leaving Waterloo, Train No.1 Plymouth Portion 336, Philomel, 249 #, 54. Ilfracombe Portion Princess Elizabeth, Adrian, Argus #, Rosemary #, 171 #, 34 #, 33, 32, 27, 13. # = These cars will be withdrawn when not required. Formation of Train No. 2 leaving Exeter Central. Plymouth Portion 55, 169 #, Penelope, 208. Ilfracombe Portion 65, 60, 61, 35 #, 31 #, Zena #, Cassandra #, Plato, Minerva, 14. 5/6/50 From 1950 the Plymouth portion was dropped and replaced on Sat only by an Exeter portion Formation of the Devon Belle leaving Waterloo, Train No.1 Exeter Portion Juno, Philomel, 249 #, 54. Ilfracombe Portion Princess Elizabeth, 208, 31, Ibis, Rosemary #, Adrian #, 34 #, 32 #, 33, 27, 13. # = These cars will be withdrawn when not required. Formation of Train No. 2 leaving Exeter Central. Exeter Portion 55, 169 #, Penelope, Aurora. Ilfracombe Portion 65, 60, 61 #, 35 #, Plato #, Zena #, Cassandra, 171, 36, 14. 25/9/50 (Same as 5/6/50) Formation of the Devon Belle leaving Waterloo, Train No.1 Exeter Portion Juno, Philomel, 249 #, 54. Ilfracombe Portion Princess Elizabeth, 208, 31, Ibis, Rosemary #, Adrian #, 34 #, 32 #, 33, 27, 13. # = These cars will be withdrawn when not required. Formation of Train No. 2 leaving Exeter Central. Exeter Portion 55, 169 #, Penelope, Aurora. Ilfracombe Portion 65, 60, 61 #, 35 #, Plato #, Zena #, Cassandra, 171, 36, 14. 18/6/51 Formation of the Devon Belle leaving Waterloo, Train No.1 Exeter Portion Juno, Plato, 17 #, Montana. Ilfracombe Portion 54, 249, Cassandra, Sappho #, Rosemary #, (unspecified 3rd Kitchen) #, 60 #, 61, 27, 13. # = These cars will be withdrawn when not required. Formation of Train No. 2 leaving Exeter Central. Exeter Portion Flora, 19 #, Penelope, Aurora. Ilfracombe Portion 36, 171, 31 #, (unspecified 3rd Kitchen) #, Onyx #, Cecelia #, Adrian, 169, 55, 14. 10/9/51 (Same as 18/6/51) Formation of the Devon Belle leaving Waterloo, Train No.1 Exeter Portion Juno, Plato, 17 #, Montana. Ilfracombe Portion 54, 249, Cassandra, Sappho #, Rosemary #, (unspecified 3rd Kitchen) #, 60 #, 61, 27, 13. # = These cars will be withdrawn when not required. Formation of Train No. 2 leaving Exeter Central. Exeter Portion Flora, 19 #, Penelope, Aurora. Ilfracombe Portion 36, 171, 31 #, (unspecified 3rd Kitchen) #, Onyx #, Cecelia #, Adrian, 169, 55, 14. 30/6/52 Formation of the Devon Belle leaving Waterloo, Train No.1 Exeter Portion Juno, Philomel, 17 #, Montana #. Ilfracombe Portion 27, 171, Fingall, Rosemary #, (unspecified 3rd Kitchen) #, 61 #, 60, 208, 13. # = These cars will be withdrawn when not required. Formation of Train No. 2 leaving Exeter Central. Exeter Portion Flora #, 19 #, Penelope, Aurora. Ilfracombe Portion 54, 32, 31 #, (unspecified 3rd Kitchen) #, Onyx #, Rosamund, 169, 55, 14. 15/9/52 (same as 30/6/52) Formation of the Devon Belle leaving Waterloo, Train No.1 Exeter Portion Juno, Philomel, 17 #, Montana #. Ilfracombe Portion 27, 171, Fingall, Rosemary #, (unspecified 3rd Kitchen) #, 61 #, 60, 208, 13. # = These cars will be withdrawn when not required. Formation of Train No. 2 leaving Exeter Central. Exeter Portion Flora #, 19 #, Penelope, Aurora. Ilfracombe Portion 54, 32, 31 #, (unspecified 3rd Kitchen) #, Onyx #, Rosamund, 169, 55, 14. I hope that helps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
70E Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 Graham Many thanks for the comprehensive reply You're a star! kind regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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