NFL - American Football

[Ian J.]

Bu**er. That was not a pretty game. But it goes to show that a good D with an average O will pretty much always outsmart a good O with an average or weak D. We have work to do. Bye for week 11 for us, hopefully a couple of injured O players (Coleman and Tamme) will get back to fitness before the 49ers game in two weeks.

 

I've realised an error after checking the Falcons schedule this evening. We're up against the Cardinals in week 12, then it's Chiefs, Rams, 49ers, Pants and Sants.

[shortliner]

Two guys from Michigan die and wake up in hell.

  for fury. He thinks about the problem and realises

  that they have been so cold all their lives that he

  isn't tormenting them at all. 

Edited November 18, 2016 by shortliner

[Ozexpatriate]

Say ya to da u.p. eh!

 

Two guys from Michigan die and wake up in hell.

There's lots of rim shots to that setup:

• ... and said "At least the water is better than in Flint"
• ....and said "wow, this is really nice"
• ... and said "at least the people here have jobs"
• ... and said "now I know what Ohio is like"
• ... and said "It's still better than Wisconsin"
• "Did they notice the difference?"
• "A distinction without a difference"

etc.

 

Nothing in particular against Michigan but there's a meme here:

 

 

Or is it this or even what they think of WI or OH.

 

Search "Pure Michigan parody" in Youtube.

[Zomboid]

Patriots, then.

That went about as well as expected.

 

York out.

[Revolution Mike]

Another glorious win for the Lions (read: another nervous last quarter...)

[Ian J.]

Nothing to report in our bye week, but I was hoping for a Buccs loss, especially against the Chiefs, so I'm a bit disappointed about that. The Pats are too bloody good, I think any team would struggle against them, but you have my sympathies. GB seem to be having a torrid time of late, not good.

[Mike at C&M]

 GB seem to be having a torrid time of late, not good.

Depends if you are a Redskins supporter. (Green Bay 24 - 42 Washington, for those who do not follow American Football too closely)

 

Downside, if you are a Redskins supporter is that we are in the NFC East. Winning record for the season thus far, and firmly stuck in 3rd place in the division.

[Ian J.]

We had a good win against the Cards today, 19-38, puts us 7-4 with three home games in the last five. Saints took out the Rams. As I type, Raiders are playing against the Pants and level, and the Buccs are playing the 'Hawks and winning. Lots of time remaining in those games though. I'd still hopeful of us getting into the first round of the playoffs comfortably

[Mike at C&M]

Loved the end of the Bengals v. Ravens today. An inspired piece of play calling to know how you can use the rules to your advantage. Coaching genius from whoever called the play.

[Zomboid]

Quite an encouraging defeat to the dolphins today, if such a thing can exist. There was fight, and the offense at least looked like it might be semi competent.

 

Though York still must go.

[Ian J.]

That was close. Disappointing loss for us against the Chiefs 29-28, we gave away interceptions and couldn't complete at crucial moments, and our defense still isn't good enough. Puts us 7-5 and potentially not making the playoffs, but conversely that game was probably the last of the 'difficult' ones of what's left (touching wood as I type).

[Zomboid]

That 2 point runback was unusual. Only saw it as a highlight.

I gave up on the 9ers, it was like 13th century football out there in Chicago - who needs the forward pass?

We'll get a nice high draft pick to waste on a DB with a blown ACL, so that's some consolation.

[Ian J.]

I put it down to a tactical error. I feel we just aren't good enough at two-point conversions and shouldn't try them unless it's the only way to get overtime or a win during overtime. If we'd stuck for one-point we'd have been ahead and could have worked out keeping ahead from a better position. Instead the decision was made to go for the two and we got royally s*****d.

[Ozexpatriate]

... we just aren't good enough at two-point conversions and shouldn't try them unless it's the only way to get overtime or a win during overtime.

I can't think of a situation where a two point conversion would win an overtime game. The extra point is not attempted if a touchdown is scored during overtime. With normal NFL overtime rules, the game is over as soon as one team scores a touchdown or a safety. The rules change in the post-season but it's still sudden death after two field goals.

[pH]

That 2 point runback was unusual.

 

Apparently more than unusual - it's the first ever "pick 2", according to some of the highlight shows here.

[Zomboid]

I'm sure it's happened in CFB before as they've had that rule for longer, but it's only been an option in the NFL for a couple of seasons.

[Ozexpatriate]

I'm sure it's happened in CFB before as they've had that rule for longer, but it's only been an option in the NFL for a couple of seasons.

Yes. In fact it happened again on Saturday when Florida returned a blocked PAT conversion against Alabama in the SEC Championship game.

 

By moving the point after touchdown kick spot further away (at the 15 yard line beginning in 2015) the NFL is deliberately encouraging teams to consider more two point conversions by making a successful kick less automatic. It's working for the league.

Edited December 6, 2016 by Ozexpatriate

[Mike at C&M]

A heart-warming story from the NFL.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/american-football/38220797 

 

Always nice to see someone conquer adversity, and get back to where they were.

[Zomboid]

And a couple of weeks back they had about 12 missed PATs. A bit of a law of unintended consequences there, I don't think the NFL really wanted to make kickers more influential...

 

If I was a coach I'd be going for 2 pretty much every time.

[Ozexpatriate]

And a couple of weeks back they had about 12 missed PATs. A bit of a law of unintended consequences there, I don't think the NFL really wanted to make kickers more influential...

It's working as intended. Before the change the probability of PATs was 99.3%. For the 2015 season it had dropped to 94.2%.

 

The kicker is always an important position - plenty of games are decided by a made/missed field goal.

 

Not counting quarterbacks, kickers are often the leading point scorer. 

[Zomboid]

File that one under "finding a way to lose". 2 missed FGs before half time and then we lose in overtime from 17-3 up.

 

I knew it was going to get hard when or center was injured, since our backup center could be replaced with a cardboard cut out with no discernable drop off in performance.

 

At least we're not the rams.

[Ian J.]

Yeah, the Rams sucked last night, from that first fumble onwards. We let them have a few points late on though. Next week, we're up against the 49ers. I apologize in advance if it turns out as predicted, but if you do get a win against us I'll won't hold it against you.

[Zomboid]

Well it's not like I have any influence on the outcome, but you'd have to go the the wing stadium to lose to us this season. Our only real chance of 2-14 this year is the second rams game. We'll probably lose that, but we have at least lost to pretty much all the contenders for the #2 overall now.

C'mon jags...

[pH]

A good idea - yes or no? This is the best article I've found on the subject - more background than others.

 

http://wreg.com/2016/12/11/proposed-law-would-let-guns-inside-stadiums-in-washington-state/

[Zomboid]

Can't see any way that could go wrong.