darren01 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Hi I am looking at buying this loco Hornby R2183A Class 2P Locomotive,but after i looked at the service sheet it look's like the loco is tender drive?. Did Hornby do a loco drive one of this loco?,and can any one tell me which one it was.please. Thanks Darren01 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 They do, but not currently in catalogue. Been after one myself and they rarely come up on ebay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Sidelines Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Hi Darren Hornby R3028 is a loco drive BR version. I think the reviews have been rather mixed because it has rubber tyres on the driving wheels. The earlier Hornby versions are tender drive and based on an old model issued under the Mainline label. The tender drive mechanism used for the original Mainline model was almost identical with the one used by Airfix for their 4F suggesting that the 2P perhaps also owes its origin to Airfix.- 1977ish? Regards Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon G Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Hi Darren Hornby R3028 is a loco drive BR version. I think the reviews have been rather mixed because it has rubber tyres on the driving wheels. The earlier Hornby versions are tender drive and based on an old model issued under the Mainline label. The tender drive mechanism used for the original Mainline model was almost identical with the one used by Airfix for their 4F suggesting that the 2P perhaps also owes its origin to Airfix.- 1977ish? Regards Ray Ray is right in that the origins of the 2P tender drive are Airfix, and it takes exactly the same size traction tyres as the Airfix 4F. However, the 2P motor is considerably smoother and quieter than the older Airfix models - but it is still tender drive, so the newer loco drive would be preferable. I have a tender drive 2P, and it is the best running loco of my tender drive ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR8700 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Got a question about this locomotive's livery. I can't find any photos on the web of a 2P with 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' written on the side that has lining. Would this locomotive have carried this livery or do I need to remove the lining? Edit: Couldn't find one, now I have one. Ignore this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 R2183A is definitely tender drive, I've got one. The later loco drive version is identical in all respects except the drive train and tender chassis, externally they are identical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted June 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2016 Hi I am looking at buying this loco Hornby R2183A Class 2P Locomotive,but after i looked at the service sheet it look's like the loco is tender drive?. Did Hornby do a loco drive one of this loco?,and can any one tell me which one it was.please. Thanks Darren01 The most recent version of the loco drive 2P (R.3315, BR late crest) is currently obtainable new in Hatton's "bargains" section for a very reasonable £61. Mine runs very nicely! They also have R3316 in S&DJR Prussian blue for the same price. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinayres1 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Loads on eBay just type 2p Hornby then click search. All dcc ready versions are loco drive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 Thanks for the help , now own one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexAshton Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Ray is right in that the origins of the 2P tender drive are Airfix, and it takes exactly the same size traction tyres as the Airfix 4F. However, the 2P motor is considerably smoother and quieter than the older Airfix models - but it is still tender drive, so the newer loco drive would be preferable. I have a tender drive 2P, and it is the best running loco of my tender drive ones. I agree. The Hornby 2P while retaining the Airfix tender drive design is a much better runner than it's predecessor. Just as an aside though, the tender drive is 6 wheel drive and may have better haulage power that the loco drive one. Don't let the tender drive put you off. They run very well and both Roco and Fleischmann have used them for years - there's nothing wrong with either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OFFTHE RAILS Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Got a question about this locomotive's livery. I can't find any photos on the web of a 2P with 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' written on the side that has lining. Would this locomotive have carried this livery or do I need to remove the lining? Edit: Couldn't find one, now I have one. Ignore this Some ex-LMS 2Ps did have the early (1948-49) BR black lined (officially "Mixed Traffic/Secondary Passenger") livery with "BRITISH RAILWAYS" in Gill Sans Font but I reckon the lettering size was not as large as on that Hornby Model. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Jackson Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I have one of these engines for sale if anyone's interested, just PM me for pics and price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Got a question about this locomotive's livery. I can't find any photos on the web of a 2P with 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' written on the side that has lining. Would this locomotive have carried this livery or do I need to remove the lining? Edit: Couldn't find one, now I have one. Ignore this Many, if not all, carried that livery in early BR years. the first of the class 563 was photographed on the S&DJR by G.F.Heiron in that livery in 1953. https://www.flickr.com/photos/dan700/9320420979/in/photolist-edCchn-deqegu-fHrAY9-deqfFR-e4pkLX-deqejd-jPr898-gE83YQ-iLcFbP-fcBArr-pxMkLt-q1A84U-ySiFYc-e4puFM-e4uWV1-a6fxE9-roaj9i-B3xkLK-FWVJ7V-GVT5cc-EmzYf9-FxticU-AaCpjz-FDbqiZ-GcNpVG-Go9Nwj-zyjmUp-Ggryzd-yeFXNk-jFgkzB-bNvxxc-zY5yVe-zVXWUm-btLSAh-AWKxQh-CskESU-EMxkxc-CCzM6F-xMFQdm-xkasRt-AoimYv-BszaVt-tbv6Ai-Ev7tUc-DxJ2YX-ygiBPw-tmmKi5-GrzEfS-yRw9zK-yjq5N1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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