RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted November 25, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 25, 2016 After letting the lining on the first side dry for about 48hrs I looked at the marks I'd left behind that you can see in the previous picture. Using some fresh, clean water and a cotton bud I wiped along the length and thankfully they all cleaned up completely. So I went onto the door markings, the GWR etc. Not a great shot, and it was still wet, but welcome coach 34. Now I need to do the other side! I thought it was about time to finish the other part of the coach. So the steps have been made and the ends completed. Now all in primer 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 You've done a good job there, Scott - you can come and paint ours when you've done! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Probably shoulda masked off the sides so you would glue directly to the plastic. Now you are going to glue onto paint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted November 26, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2016 Cheers Richard. That's going to be a big airbrush! The coach is only primer. I figured it wouldn't make much different to the impact adhesives? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
County of Yorkshire Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Very useful thread this - I've a stack of Comet GWR coach sides and Bachmann/Dapol donor coaches that I've been meaning to tackle for about 2 years now; perhaps this thread has given me the inspiration I needed... Cheers, CoY 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Cheers Richard. That's going to be a big airbrush! The coach is only primer. I figured it wouldn't make much different to the impact adhesives? You are gluing to the paint not the coach side so if the paint hasn't keyed on to the plastic it is possible it could peel away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted November 28, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2016 I'll rub down the side before getting the glue out then! Glad I've given you some inspiration CoY. People on here have been really helpful in helping me through this first build. It's certainly not a small project if you want to do it justice, but as with everything in this amazing hobby it's worth the effort. I've spent tonight adding the lining to the other side. I like to give it plenty of time to dry before I'm doing the rest so I don't disturb it. the roof has also had a few coats of GWR white and is looking quite smart! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 28, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2016 I'll rub down the side before getting the glue out then! Glad I've given you some inspiration CoY. People on here have been really helpful in helping me through this first build. It's certainly not a small project if you want to do it justice, but as with everything in this amazing hobby it's worth the effort. I've spent tonight adding the lining to the other side. I like to give it plenty of time to dry before I'm doing the rest so I don't disturb it. the roof has also had a few coats of GWR white and is looking quite smart! Just found this topic and very interesting as I have several similar conversions in the pipeline. A number of good tips that I shall use. Just a couple of observations if I may. First, unless I missed it I haven't seen a mention of replacing the odd curved headstocks. John Dew's photos earlier in the topic show how they should look. This really makes a huge difference to the overall appearance of the coach. Secondly, although this is probably too late, I recommend strongly using an etching primer for brass. Otherwise, over time the paint is liable to wear or at worst flake off. Look forward to more progress and seeing the finished model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted November 29, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2016 I did consider doing something with the headstock. I had a play about with some plasticard when I was trying to affix the buffers, but nothing really looked right, so on this occasion I've left it. The primer was Halfords car primer, someone recommended it to me. I figured if it can key into a car body, should be fine on some soft brass! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Brass has a "self lubricating quality" which stops paint keying onto the surface. Etch primer chemically "eats" into the brass. You might be ok if you don't handle it to much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) I did consider doing something with the headstock. I had a play about with some plasticard when I was trying to affix the buffers, but nothing really looked right, so on this occasion I've left it. The primer was Halfords car primer, someone recommended it to me. I figured if it can key into a car body, should be fine on some soft brass! Car primer is all I use. However I do scrub the sides (and any other etches, with a fine wire brush before I start. It roughs up the surface enough for the paint to adhere. In addition, allowing car sprays to harden for a couple of days before handling helps. I have coaches primed with car spray approaching 40 years old and the paint has not come off yet. Mike Wiltshire Edited November 30, 2016 by Coach bogie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted November 30, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2016 I'll keep my fingers crossed then It had a good scrub and clean, but not as far as a wire brush. I left it about a week in primer, just because I wasn't ready to paint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6892 Oakhill Grange Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I did consider doing something with the headstock. I had a play about with some plasticard when I was trying to affix the buffers, but nothing really looked right, so on this occasion I've left it. The primer was Halfords car primer, someone recommended it to me. I figured if it can key into a car body, should be fine on some soft brass! Here are some examples of what can be done with the headstocks. The brown coach was a tester for modifying underframe, repairing hinges, removing end detail and the headstocks. The other one is work in progress, but also shows some of what can be done with the bogies, although they look a bit odd in this photo. The bad alignment of the buffer castings is also readily apparent. Oakhill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted December 1, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2016 That brown coach was taking a beating then! I like your idea on the headstock, maybe next time I'm now on a tight time frame as I want the coach ready for a club running session next Tuesday. So with that in mind I've started on the ends, grab rails and rain strip. The roof has had about 3 coats and is looking really smart. I tucked some pieces of paper under the grab rails on the roof to protect the paint. That roof is going to need some serious weathering at some point, I can't believe they were that clean for very long. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted December 2, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) With a following wind things came together last night! I used some plastic glazing that I'd bought from Wizard on my last shopping trip. It was quite easy to stick in with deluxe materials glass and glaze, if you haven't used this stuff you really should, it dries clear and won't cloud the plastic. I then used a thin permanent marker to add the bars onto the back. With that all done it was time to attach the sides with contact adhesive. I wrapped rubber bands around it while it dried and tucked cocktail sticks into the roof line under the rain strip to get it to all hold together. There are a few parts I'm not 100% happy with. The ends haven't set perfectly onto the coach and you can see a little space, that shot also shows up a little part of the underframe that's not painted! Overall I'm very happy! A big thanks to everyone that's posted and helped along the way. It was certainly a lot more work than I was expecting, but if other people are reading this, don't be put off, it's all possible with some patience. I'd never soldered anything more than two wires before this. I'll get some better photos in some better light and on a layout next week. Edited December 2, 2016 by sjrixon 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 That looks superb! Been a great thread and the build, in my view, would make the basis of a great magazine article David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted December 10, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 10, 2017 Is there any way you can bring the pictures back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted December 10, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) I could.. I'd need to download and re-upload.. Leave it with me, I'll sort it out.. (Just not quickly, sorry, on holiday right now) Edited December 10, 2017 by sjrixon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted December 10, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 10, 2017 I've done battle with Photobucket! Yike, that site is now a mess!! I'll link the pictures in good time, but here they are now safe in google. https://photos.app.goo.gl/12amT91xJnsG99Le2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Bear Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I've done battle with Photobucket! Yike, that site is now a mess!! I'll link the pictures in good time, but here they are now safe in google. https://photos.app.goo.gl/12amT91xJnsG99Le2 Thank you that is very useful, as I'm about to start such a project. All the best Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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