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Wymondham and Spooner Row and an X rated crossing


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My second outing to the local railways.

 

Wymondham

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170202 on 1K71, 10:40, Norwich - Cambridge stopper

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158858 on 1L04, 08:34, Nottingham - Norwich

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158875 on 1R82, 10:57, Norwich - Liverpool Lime Street

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170203 on 1K66, 10:12, Cambridge - Norwich stopper

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Dropping to the starter at danger - waiting for the level crossing.

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Spooner Row

 

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170203 on 1K73, 11:40, Norwich - Cambridge

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158865 on 1L05, 06:47, Liverpool Lime Street - Norwich

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158858 on 1R86, 11:57, Norwich - Liverpool Lime Street

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170204 on 1K68, 11:12, Cambridge - Norwich

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Wymondham is lovely. I like the way the footbridge echos the old skyways at London's Liverpool Street.

 

By the way I owe you an apology there are definitely stoppers between Liverpool Lime Street and Norwich - I can only imagine that that journey must be excrutiating! I thought you had mixed up the names with London's Liverpool Street, sorry - I shouldn't have doubted you...............

 

Nice photographs as usual.

 

Best, Pete.

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Wymondham is lovely. I like the way the footbridge echos the old skyways at London's Liverpool Street.

 

By the way I owe you an apology there are definitely stoppers between Liverpool Lime Street and Norwich - I can only imagine that that journey must be excrutiating! I thought you had mixed up the names with London's Liverpool Street, sorry - I shouldn't have doubted you...............

Nice photographs as usual.

 

Best, Pete.

 

 

The Liverpool-Norwich is quite a trip, xx.52 from Lime Street most of the day, arrival in Norwich is roughly 5h 25m later.

You'd be surprised how many people make the full trip, fortunately we train crew only do half of the journey splitting at Nottingham.

When I started 'on the trollies' I used to do both ends in the same day, worked out at just about 12 hours. The joys of being self-employed :umbrage:

 

Most units will get to one end or the other twice in the same day, one of the longest diagrams being the 06.40 from Nottingham to Liverpool where it forms the 09.52 to norwich arriving around 15.15. It then forms the 15.57 back to Liverpool, the last bit being the 21.37 from Liverpool arriving back in Nottingham around 00.30.

 

Normal stopping pattern through the day is Norwich, Thetford (don't forget the co-acter Dave!) Ely (reverse) Peterborough, Grantham, Nottingham, Alfreton, Chesterfield, Sheffield (reverse) Stockport, Manchester Piccadilly and Oxford Road, Warrington Central, Widnes, Liverpool South Parkway and Lime Street.

The first and last ones in each direction do all the stops through the Hope Valley, others call at various other wayside stations to provide for commuter flows at certain times of day.

 

You'd be surprised how many passengers can't tell the difference between London and Merseyside, the furthest I have known one get is Chesterfield :help: This why I always do a full ticket check from Nottingham, more than once I have been asked when the train gets to London :laugh:

Had a particularly obnoxious young man earlier this year demanding that I 'make' the train take him to London!

After asking him several times not to swear at me and offering him various alternatives, all of which involved either a bit of humility on his part, or the passing of cash. He had an avance ticket from Norwich to Cambourne (Cornwall), which was now invalid, and as he continued with his unpleasant manner I ripped his ticket up and left him standing at Thetford :pleasantry:

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Wymondham is a very nice little station indeed. When I was there a few years back there was a preserved industrial shunter and some wagons adjacent to the station (this one, not the MNR one) but I can't see them in the photos. Have they gone?

By the way I owe you an apology there are definitely stoppers between Liverpool Lime Street and Norwich - I can only imagine that that journey must be excrutiating!

They tend not to stop at the smaller stations in East Anglia, but are still quite ponderous. Certainly when I've travelled on these trains they had lengthy stops at Manchester Pic, Sheffield (reverse), Nottingham, Grantham, Peterborough and Ely (reverse again!). In fact the Ely stop still seemed to allow enough time to run round the locomotive from the days when these were class 31 hauled! It's still one of the most useful cross country services around but could really do with something better than 158s.

 

 

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I took this service from Manchester Piccadilly to Norwich (and back) on a business trip a few years ago. It doesn't stop for long at Man Picc, since it runs through the heavily used platforms 13/14. That aside, I checked the likely car journey and, despite the tortuous nature of the rail journey, found there was little time saving (possibly because the car journey isn't that great either), so it was a bit of a no-brainer.

 

Lovely scenery and a lot of railway things to look at as you trundle along, appreciation somewhat marred by finding out about halfway (when I had removed my attention from the outside to what I was supposed to be doing) to discover that my predecessor on the job had made an almighty and expensive mess of it.

 

I noticed when picking up the return journey from Norwich that there were continual platform and then on-train PA announcements to the effect that the train was for Liverpool, not London. I did wonder how many of the punters would really think that a 2 coach 158 would be going to London when the normal service is (presumably) a 90 plus 8, but clearly, from above and announcements, it is a problem.

 

As for the use of the 158, well, I would prefer to do it in a loco-hauled Mk3, but I don't suppose that is likely to happen. The service caters for a lot of short trip intermediates in any event.

 

Regrettably, and more on topic, I don't even remember passing through Wymondham, but the pictures do remind me of some of the "traditional" railway that is still so present in East Anglia, noticeable on the trip.

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And the "X-Rated" level crossing.

 

I will let the road name speak for itself.

 

 

From the Dutch word for sluice - meaning a drain.

 

 

Just when you think you'll never beat Pant-Y-Stain as a name

(a crossing on the line from Brymbo to Mold)

you have to top it :P

Cracking set of pics, as usual :)

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Well, I'm surprised and delighted that it has lasted this long!

 

 

I'm sick that when I used to stand on Liverpool Street Station waiting for my train I used to hear all these station names being read out by the announcer and thought one day I'll visit those - of course I never did - see what I missed!

 

What happened to Magdalen Road (not pronounced as it is spelt) Station?

 

Thanks for all the info guys; now I want to take that Norwich - Liverpool run (with an empty 2 litre bottle, natch).

 

Best, Pete.

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Sorry to say, all the atmosphere soon to be swept away by re-signalling so catch it while you can.

 

 

July 2012 is the current date.

 

Thanks for all the info guys; now I want to take that Norwich - Liverpool run (with an empty 2 litre bottle, natch).

 

158s have toilets ;) - take a full bottle and drink it, you have somewhere to go should nature call.

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A superb set of photos, Beast. It's a station which isn't too far from me, and yet, one I have not visited!

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If anyone was wondering, the branch off to the right is a spur to the MNR. Some visiting locos use this for access, along with some railtours (including an HST to Dereham!)

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During my recent visit to Snetterton I spent an hour on Wymondham station....how come I didnt see all the detail that I now see in your photos.??????

 

Great pics Dave...........its nice to see a whole series of one place in such detail, you get such a feeling of the atmosphere.

 

Hope you are settling in ok.......looks as if you are.!!

 

Bob.

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A couple of recent shots

 

01 May 2013

Spooner Row

 

158788 on 1R68, 17:54, Norwich - Nottingham

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170203 on 1K80, 17:12, Cambridge - Norwich

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66142 on 6M43, 18:20, Trowse Redland Siding - Mountsorrel - empty stone

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Sluts Hole Lane

 

158856 on 1L12, 13:52, Liverpool Lime Street - Norwich

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170204 on 1K81, 18:12, Cambridge - Norwich

Notice the Virgin balloon, Sluts Hole and Virgin - ridiculous.

 

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Please excuse my higgerance of the modern railway scene, but what's the meaning of the yellow triangular sign with the black symbol and black cross which is at the end of one of the Wymondham platforms?

 

Geoff

 

The leaf without the cross tells the driver he's entering an area of low adhesion, the cross denotes the end of the area of low adhesion and he should be able to get away with a heavier brake application without sliding or be heavier on the throttle without slipping. The signs can differ from area to area. Pete.

Nice pics again, Beast. The infrastructure at Wymondham looking particularly terrific. Not too far from me, so I'll need to take a look before it's all gone.

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Nice pics again, Beast. The infrastructure at Wymondham looking particularly terrific. Not too far from me, so I'll need to take a look before it's all gone.

 

Thanks - you are too late I'm afraid, the semaphores have gone. I'll post some "colour light" shots over the next week or two when I've caught up with other things

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Thanks - you are too late I'm afraid, the semaphores have gone. I'll post some "colour light" shots over the next week or two when I've caught up with other things

 

Oh - that's a shame but thanks for the heads-up. Still worth a detour though - plenty of character.

 

Edit: I've just noticed the date of the pics - I seem to be a couple of years behind everyone else..! :mosking:

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What happened to Magdalen Road (not pronounced as it is spelt) Station?

 

Maggy road station became Watlington (and the lovely shelter has been replaced with a posh bus-shelter), but the box is still called Maggy Road.

 

Here at Littleport, the wooden shelter burnt down one day, and has been replaced with a tin represention.

 

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Some Norwich to London trains are a 3-car 170 which can be a little cosy when you are expecting the usual 90+Mk3 push-pull set. I have not seen a 158 on that duty yet, but I have seen an early morning 150/2 heading up the GE with Sheringham as the destination on the front on more than one occasion!

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