Arthur Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 And ... what an ugly beast! CSP's kit for a S&D Sentinel shunter. I am, of course, referring to the prototype, not the kit which should be quite good. Any takers? Were any built for any other users, industrial users perhaps? I am tempted I have to say, but difficult to justify if purely a S&D beast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Were any built for any other users, industrial users perhaps? I am tempted I have to say, but difficult to justify if purely a S&D beast. There is a very similar preserved industrial example - in fact, I believe that this was one of the sources used in the production of the kit. I am sure that CSP can provide more details. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 Not sure if I should thank you for that John, probably gonna cost me £100.00 or so! I'll look into it, I like the look of it and can see one working at a foundry..... Thanks Arthur Edit: Yes, a little research shows that a former industrial version, Croydon Gasworks 'Joyce', is currently under restoration at Midsomer Norton. The LMS/S&D versions had a cut down cab but otherwise pretty much identical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 In my view it is the cab that makes it "ugly" - it just looks out of proportion. At £135 (according to MRJ) for the kit including wheels and High Level gearbox it sounds like good value. I would probably like to see someone else's venture into building one before me (I have enough on the books already) but CSP have a pretty good reputation. I would hope they have the correct details for the S&D version and possibly the different parts to build nto the preserved version. Useful to know that it was in industrial use as well as that extends the potential for this kit well beyond the narrow field of those umbilically attached to the S&D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 ...Edit: Yes, a little research shows that a former industrial version, Croydon Gasworks 'Joyce', is currently under restoration at Midsomer Norton. The LMS/S&D versions had a cut down cab but otherwise pretty much identical. I take it you've found this site, Arthur? If so, others may find it interesting. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 I take it you've found this site, Arthur? If so, others may find it interesting. Nick Nick, Thanks for that and, no, I hadn't seen it, very useful indeed. The ones I found were; http://www.sdjr.co.uk/pages/general.html and this by our very own Mr. Nevard http://www.nevard.com/sdjr/midsomer.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%26DJR_Sentinels There is also a page about the kit itself, some more photos and confirmation of Kenton's price details, on model-railways-live.co.uk , though I cannot now get the page to open. Arthur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted December 7, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2011 Shown here: http://www.cspmodels.com/4mm_Kits.php Looks a good 'un to me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Already being discussed with much more on the MRJ 211 topic ADMIN EDIT - not any more, posts moved here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Well, it was briefly mentioned over there, but as that thread has wandered off into a lengthy debate about how many pages MRJ should have, this would seem to be a more appropriate home for a thread on the new kit and the prototypes. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mod6 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Relevant posts from MRJ 211 moved into here - as Nick says it is better to have them in a separate and less ephemeral topic. (Also now moved another by Arthur missed the first time) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I've just ordered one following a rapid and positive response from Roger Slade to my enquiry about whether he could supply the complete kit with Gibson P4 wheels. I'll let you know when it arrives... Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 Thanks Mod 6 This page from Nick's link http://sentinel7109.blogspot.com/2011/09/radstock-sentinel-model-is-ready.html has this from Roger Slade about an Industrial version "A similar kit for “Joyce” in 4 & 7mm is nearly finished and will be available early in 2012". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Were any built for any other users, industrial users perhaps? I am tempted I have to say, but difficult to justify if purely a S&D beast. Or for a better looking version;- http://www.lner.info/locos/Y/y10.shtml Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 Or for a better looking version;- http://www.lner.info/locos/Y/y10.shtml Good link, I hadn't realised previously that the Y10 was essentially a double cabbed version of the S&D type Sentinel I quite like the look of the S&D Sentinels including that low cab, gives them a very purposeful look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Or for a better looking version;- http://www.lner.info/locos/Y/y10.shtml And the subject of an Impetus kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Good link, I hadn't realised previously that the Y10 was essentially a double cabbed version of the S&D type Sentinel I quite like the look of the S&D Sentinels including that low cab, gives them a very purposeful look. As I understand it they were both D.E.D.G engines, ( Double Engine, Double Geared), all built in 1929 so yes a lot of similarities between the 2 "classes", And the subject of an Impetus kit. If you can get hold of one! Alternatively it's dead easy to scratchbuild one, there's no complex shapes and can easily be made with a few handtools and a power bogie. My efforts include a couple of rough outline sketches enough to build your own Y10 - as per this link. It'll be on display on the Scale7 stand at the Wigan Show this weekend if you want a closer look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 ...I'll let you know when it arrives... The timing of my order was a little unfortunate. Roger Slade told me that he had sold over forty kits in the first couple of weeks, so I had to wait for new etches, castings, gearbox, etc. However, earlier this week a package arrived from CSP. I immediately started reading the instructions and, despite having far too many projects already on the workbench, I made a start on the Sentinel. A few odd hours in the evenings has resulted in a basic chassis and running plate. More details coming soon on my workshop blog. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Alas I've never got further than this http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/30067-sd-sentinel/page__fromsearch__1 with mine, I keep looking at it again, but I just don't have the enhusiasm to restart. Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 http://www.flickr.com/photos/64215236@N03/6056241423/in/photostream J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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