Swindon 123 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 A stab in the dark question. I know from photographic evidence that at least one Derby lightweight DTC aquired full yellow ends and the yellow stripe over the first class section. By remote chance would anyone know the number of that vehicle. Also some units appeared in Blue with yellow panels, (at least one later aquired Full yellw ends if the position of the double arrow is anything to go by). Does anyone have numbers for the so liveried vehicles. Its a long shot i know but I have gone through all my Railway observers and drawn a blank so far. Many thanks in anticipation of a full post bag . Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 This one needs to receive the tender mercies of the good people of the Transition Diesel liveries Group. I for one, have not heard of GFYE on these units before, but BSYP and BFYE were both staple power out of Carlisle in the '66-69 period. In many cases these were units reallocated in to replace early withdrawals, themselves not lasting more than a year or so before the cutter beckoned for them too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Russ (mines a pint) Posted April 27, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 27, 2012 Try the Cumbrian Railway Association (CRA) Website there are some pics in their galler section of lightweights on the Cumbrian Coast line, I can't remember whether the captions extend to numbering tho'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 Thanks Russ (mines a pint) for the link. I've had a look at the website but it hasn't increased my knowlage on the livery question. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 See: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/7085117547/ Number is M79x24 - not sure if x is 0 or 1. Cannot identify the number of this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/5407540691/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted May 27, 2012 Author Share Posted May 27, 2012 Robert, Most useful especially the number of the first shot. It's probably 79124 as 79024 was an ER one and I have no record of it being in service anywhere near the North West. I've found another shot of 79124 being broken up at Carlisle, unfortunatly the cab front has gone so I don't know if it had small yellow panels when scrapped although it does have the small 3" numbers. The other shot at Hellifield is the one I'd really like to confirm the number of. Its one of the early batch, TCL numbers 79600-12, and from my reseaches so far it's unlikely to be 79601/3/4/9/12. Unless someone can come up with the number I'll have to pick a number and hope it's the right one. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Robert, Most useful especially the number of the first shot. It's probably 79124 as 79024 was an ER one and I have no record of it being in service anywhere near the North West. I've found another shot of 79124 being broken up at Carlisle, unfortunatly the cab front has gone so I don't know if it had small yellow panels when scrapped although it does have the small 3" numbers. The other shot at Hellifield is the one I'd really like to confirm the number of. Its one of the early batch, TCL numbers 79600-12, and from my reseaches so far it's unlikely to be 79601/3/4/9/12. Unless someone can come up with the number I'll have to pick a number and hope it's the right one. Paul J. The final digit appears to be 7 which would make it M79607. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted May 28, 2012 Author Share Posted May 28, 2012 Robert, Thank you very for that info. Looks like M79607 it is for the TCL. If, and it's a BIG if, the kept the same DMBS throughout there lives then the DMBS will be M79015. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Robert, Thank you very for that info. Looks like M79607 it is for the TCL. If, and it's a BIG if, the kept the same DMBS throughout there lives then the DMBS will be M79015. Paul J. Note that the DMBS in the image does not have full yellow ends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 This one needs to receive the tender mercies of the good people of the Transition Diesel liveries Group. I for one, have not heard of GFYE on these units before, but BSYP and BFYE were both staple power out of Carlisle in the '66-69 period. In many cases these were units reallocated in to replace early withdrawals, themselves not lasting more than a year or so before the cutter beckoned for them too. You might like this then :- http://www.flickr.com/photos/52467480@N08/10593797436/in/set-72157637160739196 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 Nice shot. It's quite an early application of FYE if the date is right. I wonder if it's the same one in robertcwp's photograph or another member of the class? Paul J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Nice shot. It's quite an early application of FYE if the date is right. I wonder if it's the same one in robertcwp's photograph or another member of the class? Paul J Looks very likely Paul, especially as the last digit also looks like a '7' and the DMBS has a similarly 'mucky' roof; the electrification flash looks to be in exactly the same place as well. The YFE in this shot seems cleaner though, but that could just be the 'mucky' weather. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Another livery variation: Derby-LW_Shap_Easter-68 by robertcwp, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 Another livery variation: Derby-LW_Shap_Easter-68 by robertcwp, on Flickr Nice one Robert. Wrap round at both ends as well. I think its the first time I.ve seen a photo of a complete unit like that. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Nice one Robert. Wrap round at both ends as well. I think its the first time I.ve seen a photo of a complete unit like that. Paul J. Hi Paul, Just the Derby Lghtweights - or generally, I feel a challenge coming on............ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Hi Paul, Just the Derby Lghtweights - or generally, I feel a challenge coming on............ Here is a 108 in matching style: M50625_M56211_NottVic_2-9-67 by robertcwp, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Here is a 108 in matching style: M50625_M56211_NottVic_2-9-67 by robertcwp, on Flickr Really brightens that place up doesn't it Robert? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Hi Paul, Just the Derby Lghtweights - or generally, I feel a challenge coming on............ Any class of unit, DMU or EMU. Robert beat me to it with his shot of the 108. I've seen a shot of a Class 100 with what looks like wrap round ends at both ends of the unit, but it is difficult to tell with them as they wrapped round to a certain extent anyway. Those are the only ones I've come across so far. Paul J. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Any class of unit, DMU or EMU. Robert beat me to it with his shot of the 108. I've seen a shot of a Class 100 with what looks like wrap round ends at both ends of the unit, but it is difficult to tell with them as they wrapped round to a certain extent anyway. Those are the only ones I've come across so far. Paul J. Paul J. OK - here's a good'un, not only wrap around yellow, but a mixed rake as well..... http://www.flickr.com/photos/52467480@N08/10593819855/sizes/o/in/set-72157637160739196/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Some more here:- http://www.flickr.com/photos/95062750@N04/11487077863/sizes/o/in/photolist-iv5h3B-iv5bjL-iGjdad-eifUk6-goBVzZ-eM2haH-eMdhto-eMdhsu-gs6UE7-gs5Msd-eMdLTL-eMdH2E-eM2hWi-eM2my6-eiBPZ5-eM2n4F-gs5mVY-eimTvS-ejNUau/ Paul, is this the 100 you mean:- http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/2479243202/sizes/z/in/set-72157603648796702/ from Robert's Flickr site? Two more - same source:- http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/4280867639/in/set-72157603648796702/lightbox/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/2150169216/in/set-72157603648796702/lightbox/ Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 OK - here's a good'un, not only wrap around yellow, but a mixed rake as well..... http://www.flickr.com/photos/52467480@N08/10593819855/sizes/o/in/set-72157637160739196/ Oh you Bad Man. That is SO pretty, it's uber-filth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 OK - here's a good'un, not only wrap around yellow, but a mixed rake as well..... http://www.flickr.com/photos/52467480@N08/10593819855/sizes/o/in/set-72157637160739196/ A very interesting photo and a very mixed rake. Am I imagining things but does it look like the grey roof has been continued down over the cab front to the "eyebrows" above the windows. They are definitely yellow on Roberts shot, but in this one look grey to me. Some more here:- http://www.flickr.com/photos/95062750@N04/11487077863/sizes/o/in/photolist-iv5h3B-iv5bjL-iGjdad-eifUk6-goBVzZ-eM2haH-eMdhto-eMdhsu-gs6UE7-gs5Msd-eMdLTL-eMdH2E-eM2hWi-eM2my6-eiBPZ5-eM2n4F-gs5mVY-eimTvS-ejNUau/ Paul, is this the 100 you mean:- http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/2479243202/sizes/z/in/set-72157603648796702/ from Robert's Flickr site? Two more - same source:- http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/4280867639/in/set-72157603648796702/lightbox/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/2150169216/in/set-72157603648796702/lightbox/ Andy No Andy, the shot I have is in my collection of a 2 x 2car formation in Princes Gardens Edinburgh. I don't know where it came from, and I've looked on the net. The leading set is a Gloucester 100 and the leading vehicle is a DMBS with wrap round yellow ends. Its's impossible to see if the DTC has the proper wrap round ends to it. The 2nd set is a 101 in mixed Blue/green livery. I can't post a link to it and I don't know whose copyright it is to be able to post my copy of it. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Paul, The transpennine unit is just 'mucky' I think. Andy Edited for typo error Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 {aul, The transpennine unit is just 'mucky' I think. Andy The Pennines were prone to getting that area covered in gunge when coupled to another unit. The leading DMC is more than likely 1967, which was released from Donny with a standard full yellow end. Al Taylor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 The Pennines were prone to getting that area covered in gunge when coupled to another unit. The leading DMC is more than likely 1967, which was released from Donny with a standard full yellow end. Al Taylor Can't be certain which number it is - but.... .....it's different to the other linked pic; the MU coupling codes are in different positions. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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