Sir Madog Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 The W & L locos "Earl" and "Countess" have been a long time favourite for me. As I have only a limited space available for my layout, going NG seems to be a natural choice. I do have a few questions and hope to get the answers here. 1. Track plan Llanfair Caereinion I have searched the web for pictures/track plan/drawings of this station, but was unable to unearth sufficient material. A birds eye view by Google Maps did not have sufficient detail to come up with an idea. Can anyone help me with this? 2. Dorset Kits I´d like to buy a kit from them, but ukmodeshops.co.uk does not list any other way to contact them than by snail mail or phone. I have no idea on the cost of a complete kit, including motor/gear box/wheels and pickups. Phoning is out of question, as I can write in English, but speaking is a different story. Help? 3. Rolling stock Is there a source for those wonderfully restored GWR coaches I have seen in a youtube.com video? Your help is very much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted August 30, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30, 2012 Hi I'll pm you Kevins 2011 list and pm me if you need more info as he's a friend and I'll try to check the any alterations to prices. He does locos, coaches and wagons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcampbell Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Firstly, good choice. The W&L is a lovely line. Are you looking at modelling Llanfair pre- or post-preservation? The layout of the station changed quite a lot when it became the headquarters of the line! You didn't say what scale you were considering, but I presume since you mention Dorset Kits that you are looking at 7mm scale. I'm sure they do kits for the coaches as well as the locos. There is a thread on building them over on the ngrm-online forum - which would be a good place to ask these kinds of questions, being full of NG enthusiasts. There used to be kits in 009 for the locos and coaches from Golden Arrow, but I understand they are hard to get hold of now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Madog Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Michael, yes, it´ll be 7mm scale. I have been dabbling with 7mm standard gauge ideas, only to find out that I don´t have enough room for that. 6 years ago, I visited Wales to take a tour of the "Great Little Trains of Wales" and I immediately fell in love with those Beyer Peacock 0-6-0´s of the W & L. Only recently I found out that there is a kit available. My plans are to model present day Llanfair Caereinion Station. I have a vague idea what the track plan looks like. Unfortunately, I did not take pictures of the trackage during my visit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzer models Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 for a track plan as it is today use Google Maps I am a life member of the railway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Madog Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Evaluating some of my photos, a few videos on youtube.com and an aerial view in Google Maps, this is what I have come up with: I am not sue whether this would be a fair representation of the station as it is today, so any comment is moe than welcome! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Madog Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 This is a detective´s job! Found more detail: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcampbell Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 That looks about right to me, except that there is a short kick-back siding from the outer (lower in your diagram) engine shed road. The engine shed is close to the loop track. The "Sheds" are now in fact the shop/tea-room and ticket sales, behind that there is an overall roof (where you marked "station buildings" which covers the end of the track (crossed by a walkway to the platform, beyond which a van is on display). I was there a few weeks ago, but like you failed to take many photos of the track! However Bing maps is a little clearer than google: http://binged.it/OEVPVN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Madog Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Michael, thanks for the link! That Bing view helped a lot! This is were the plan stands now: I think I leave it here for the time being, before I get struck by a bad case of analysis/paralysis. My next steps will be to obtain scale drawings and pictures of the buildings and, most important, get that Dorset Kits loco kit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I was there last week. I don't know if these photos will help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcampbell Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Glad the link helped. Here are some photos I took earlier this month, sorry I wasn't taking pictures of the track but they might help! This was the shed with some interesting toys: Looking up the platform toward the station: - The other (Eastern) shed: The station buildings. The cafe/shop is in the long building on the left, with a walkway over the track behind the white gate: From the other end the walkway and display van are visible: This loco is on the kick-back from the shed: See, definitely a nice line to model! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Madog Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 Wow! Thanks, guys, for all those pictures! They will sure help me model this station. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Madog Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 I finalized the layout plan (for the time being ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve howe Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 It all looks very clean and tidy, as indeed a well-run railway should, but if you want to get a feel of the 'real' atmosphere of the W&L, have a look at the Wild Swan book (available through inter library loan if you dont want to fork out £20) which has some wonderfully evocative photos in it pre-preservation. Probably too far out of your chosen period though. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cornelius Posted September 2, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 2, 2012 The water tower is where you have the ash pit. There's a coaling stage where you have the water tower. The engine shed is more parallel to the other tracks and the bottom left siding branches off a little further left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Madog Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 cornelious, it is a slow process, but with your help, as well as the help from the other posters, I am coming close to it. I watched some videos on youtube.com, giving me more details on the setting,. This is where I am now: There will be a lot of fine tuning to be done, once I have scale drawings of the buildings available, for which I am still looking for a source. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcampbell Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 As I mentioned before, it might be worth asking on the NGRM-online forum too, as you would expect there are a lot of NG enthusiasts on there so you might get some more information! It looks like being an interesting model, the buildings form nice boundaries and view-blocks, and the hedge behind the platform a natural background. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Madog Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 Thanks for the hint - I checked into the forum (I had forgotten that I had registered into it many moos ago). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted June 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 22, 2017 Dragging up an old thread, are there any members on here who are also members of the W & LLR, who will be on duty this weekend ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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